Should I, an employee of Amazon, quit, if I do not support this policy?
Joining Apple, Amazon’s China Cloud Service Bows to Censors
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Re: Joining Apple, Amazon’s China Cloud Service Bows to Censors
#22In case you assumed that corporate responsibility is actually taken to heart by those making corporate strategic decisions, let this show you that it is not. Corporate responsibility moves are little more than good PR, a product selling point, and a way to avoid fines in some jurisdictions. Money matters more than morals. These corporations want access to the Chinese market. To gain access (and profit from) to the Ch…
Re: Joining Apple, Amazon’s China Cloud Service Bows to Censors
#23I wonder how much a publicly traded company could act upon their values, as opposed to the primary value of seeking value for shareholders. For instance, if an Apple or Amazon takes a stand and ends up having to pull out of China, would that be grounds for a shareholder lawsuit?
I haven't heard of any such lawsuit against Google.
Chinese websites are far more clustered and busy - take a look at https://world.taobao.com/. I guess that it's being shifted - baidu seems relatively uncluttered, but the Chinese aesthetic is cramming as much information as possible on the same web page.
Re: Joining Apple, Amazon’s China Cloud Service Bows to Censors
#24Should I, an employee of Amazon, quit, if I do not support this policy?
That's going to be up to you, the Amazon employee. Personally, I'm able to distinguish myself from the company and I my identity isn't the company's, so I wouldn't see a need to quit my job over something like this.
Re: Joining Apple, Amazon’s China Cloud Service Bows to Censors
#25In case you assumed that corporate responsibility is actually taken to heart by those making corporate strategic decisions, let this show you that it is not. Corporate responsibility moves are little more than good PR, a product selling point, and a way to avoid fines in some jurisdictions. Money matters more than morals. These corporations want access to the Chinese market. To gain access (and profit from) to the Ch…
Agreed. In China, the government controls the flow of money. Sadly, there's a saying among us Chinese netizens: "China is now powerful/rich enough, that no one can actually save us from it."
Re: Joining Apple, Amazon’s China Cloud Service Bows to Censors
#26What are they supposed to do? Either they comply or they leave the Chinese market. It's that simple. I hope people don't fault these companies for playing ball with a communist government.
I'm not American so I suspect I don't associate communism with the same things you do.
Re: Joining Apple, Amazon’s China Cloud Service Bows to Censors
#27What are they supposed to do? Either they comply or they leave the Chinese market. It's that simple. I hope people don't fault these companies for playing ball with a communist government.
Re: Joining Apple, Amazon’s China Cloud Service Bows to Censors
#28You need ICP license if you want to integrate any kind of service. Wechat, Alipay, other payment systems, SMS notifications etc, everything needs the ICP.
I guess AWS China also had to give up access to all servers to govt. And given the govt "professionalism" (check the China's Ministry of Information website), that's not the kind of access I'd like to give away.
Re: Joining Apple, Amazon’s China Cloud Service Bows to Censors
#29Should I, an employee of Amazon, quit, if I do not support this policy?
That's going to be up to you, the Amazon employee. Personally, I'm unwilling to work for a company who's values are in severe opposition to my own, so I would probably quit my job over something like this (if I felt strongly enough about it).