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Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

#101
Slightly off-topic, but does anyone use a Vim plugin for Firefox? I keep trying to switch, but the scrolling of VimFX drives me crazy. Here's an issue outlining the behavior: https://github.com/akhodakivskiy/VimFx/issues/830

Are there any other Vim plugins without this issue?

Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

#102
post #84

Mozilla should focus on building the browser instead of building app that competes with other developers. They need to start listening to the developers community and stop being arrogant and ignorant. You build the foundation, and developers build the app.

That's a weird take. Mozilla has a wide variety of developers, working on all sorts of things. One of those things is experiments to figure out what the browser "foundation" should actually include. I like that they're experimenting to figure out what good usability looks like and what the next generation of "browser" should deliver. Some things should just be there when you want them...not an app you install separat…

I just found it damaging to their vision and brand. Take Hello and Persona as example. User focused? Yes. Failure? Absolutely. They need to be developers focused. Less and less developers are testing their apps with Firefox as the primary platform.

Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

#103
Is Mozilla committing publicly to supporting these new features for a significant period of time? I've been slightly wary of integrating new Firefox features into my workflow ever since they cut off support for Firefox Hello in Firefox 49.

Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

#104
post #84

Mozilla should focus on building the browser instead of building app that competes with other developers. They need to start listening to the developers community and stop being arrogant and ignorant. You build the foundation, and developers build the app.

A lot of companies built the platform, and populate it with some of their own apps to set a minimum bar of quality, like with Apple (Reminders) or Google (Keep). One might say the same discussion applies to language creators -- bake it into the language, or have 3rd parties do it? Not always an obvious discussion, and so perhaps the statements about ignorance and arrogance come too quickly.

Some things are too important to not at least put out a standard-bearer.

Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

#105

Slightly off-topic, but does anyone use a Vim plugin for Firefox? I keep trying to switch, but the scrolling of VimFX drives me crazy. Here's an issue outlining the behavior: https://github.com/akhodakivskiy/VimFx/issues/830 Are there any other Vim plugins without this issue?

I use VimFx on Firefox, I guess that scrolling issue doesn't bother me because I hadn't noticed it until I visited the link you shared.

I've started looking for VimFx alternatives since the following doesn't sound great:

https://github.com/akhodakivskiy/VimFx/issues/860

https://github.com/akhodakivskiy/VimFx/issues/860#issuecomme...

Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

#106

I just wish it was .. faster. Lately I've been moving away from Google everywhere I can. I moved everything but Google Voice. Yes, even Google Search - I've moved to DuckDuckGo. On windows however, I had to fall back to Chrome, because I was just shocked at how slow Firefox was. Opening pages like Twitch.tv proved to be shockingly slow. Furthermore, my habit of opening many tabs in the background like I do in Chrome/…

Try disabling HTTPS Everywhere, if you have it. It made everything many seconds slower for me.

You might as well open it's options and disable SSL Observatory since it's exactly what cause slowdown.

Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

#107
Firefox is the browser I really want to like, but can't use. I recently tried to switch back, I kept running into problems with webpages not working, figured it must be an add-on, removed them all, still frozen pages persisted. A web browser that chokes on pages frequently is dead in the water for me.

Then there's the lack of compatibility with their mobile browser for extensions, so most of my extensions didn't work on Android tablets. It was definitely faster than it had been the last time I used it, but at this point, it needs to be significantly better than Chrome to win back users and it's not there except for a small group of people.

I do feel that the Voice Fill is a step in the right direction. I'd prefer that the notes application was a dedicated product with an add in that tightly integrated with the browser, a webapp in a wrapper would be fine really.

Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

#108

Slightly off-topic, but does anyone use a Vim plugin for Firefox? I keep trying to switch, but the scrolling of VimFX drives me crazy. Here's an issue outlining the behavior: https://github.com/akhodakivskiy/VimFx/issues/830 Are there any other Vim plugins without this issue?

I'm still using Pentadactyl, which is incredible, but it's almost certainly doomed. You'll need to use the signed version on github: https://github.com/willsALMANJ/pentadactyl-signed You might consider Vimperator, which is similar, but inferior iny opinion. It has better support, though, and is more likely to survive into the future.

If you're looking for something simple, VimFX works, but it's too basic for me. Not sure of the future of VimFX.

Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

#109
post #84

Mozilla should focus on building the browser instead of building app that competes with other developers. They need to start listening to the developers community and stop being arrogant and ignorant. You build the foundation, and developers build the app.

A lot of companies built the platform, and populate it with some of their own apps to set a minimum bar of quality, like with Apple (Reminders) or Google (Keep). One might say the same discussion applies to language creators -- bake it into the language, or have 3rd parties do it? Not always an obvious discussion, and so perhaps the statements about ignorance and arrogance come too quickly. Some things are too import…

Perhaps I was being critical, but it sadden me to see Mozilla is making one missteps after another. I think they are missing the point. Instead of competing with other browser vendors for developers, they choose to go the other way.

Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

#110
post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a weird take. Mozilla has a wide variety of developers, working on all sorts of things. One of those things is experiments to figure out what the browser "foundation" should actually include. I like that they're experimenting to figure out what good usability looks like and what the next generation of "browser" should deliver. Some things should just be there when you want them...not an app you install separat…

I just found it damaging to their vision and brand. Take Hello and Persona as example. User focused? Yes. Failure? Absolutely. They need to be developers focused. Less and less developers are testing their apps with Firefox as the primary platform.

That's becuase of their declining marketshare (which is mostly due to strategic disadvantages in distribution channels and marketing budget) not their brand or split focus.
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