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How the Collison brothers turned ‘seven lines of code’ into Stripe

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Re: How the Collison brothers turned ‘seven lines of code’ into Stripe

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For me, Stripe was a revelation because they eliminated fixed monthly costs. When I ran a side project that took credit cards, I found the cheapest option to be a $20/month merchant account + $20/month to Spreedly. Others had a few months free trials, etc. but ended up being more expensive over the first year. Stripe, while being more expensive than these options per transaction, actually cost me a lot less to start…

So much this. When I started Leavetrack[1] in 2011, it was so difficult to get setup for recurring payments. I was using Chargify to handle the recurring payments/credit card storage, a company in New Zealand (I am in the UK) to handle the interface to my merchant account in the UK. Total costs: - c. US$40 per month for Chargify (which kept increasing) - £20 per month for the payment gateway - £25 per month + transac…

Re: migrating customers: I just grandfathered all paying customers to a perpetual free plan. Weren't that many of them. Sadly that app never gained traction. You'd think reliable up/down monitoring of unlimited servers at $4/month would be a good deal.

Re: How the Collison brothers turned ‘seven lines of code’ into Stripe

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As someone that selected stripe to process orders for a product were were launching somewhere around 2012, it was because of the APIs and developer sandbox. Paypal was ugly to work with, felt crufty, etc. Stripe had pip installable modules, awesome documentation (live code samples in docs and sandbox), and was easy to integrate into our tests.

And most importantly: Stripe does not randomly decide your funds are suddenly theirs for the next 6 months to a year.

That's the least of it. Paypal automatically puts you on a 21-60 day rolling reserve once you hit a certain level. Small businesses can and have had 30%+ of their revenue unavailable for two months. That's your entire profit margin gone. It makes it impossible to grow a small business. And of course they will not respond to anything for months if ever. And it never gets better! Companies with millions in revenue still get these problems.

Paypal has no place being used by anyone trying to start a company. They are awful.

Re: How the Collison brothers turned ‘seven lines of code’ into Stripe

#133

For me, Stripe was a revelation because they eliminated fixed monthly costs. When I ran a side project that took credit cards, I found the cheapest option to be a $20/month merchant account + $20/month to Spreedly. Others had a few months free trials, etc. but ended up being more expensive over the first year. Stripe, while being more expensive than these options per transaction, actually cost me a lot less to start…

So much this. When I started Leavetrack[1] in 2011, it was so difficult to get setup for recurring payments. I was using Chargify to handle the recurring payments/credit card storage, a company in New Zealand (I am in the UK) to handle the interface to my merchant account in the UK. Total costs: - c. US$40 per month for Chargify (which kept increasing) - £20 per month for the payment gateway - £25 per month + transac…

> you need customers to re-enter card details

:scream:

We can work directly with your previous payments provider to import card details directly, which helps take the burden off when migrating (and keep things PCI-compliant ;) ).

Re: How the Collison brothers turned ‘seven lines of code’ into Stripe

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~12 years ago, it was Patrick Collison that was named young scientist of the year for developing a dialect of Lisp called Croma: http://lemonodor.com/archives/001038.html I'm glad to see he has continued to do well.

Thanks for that. I'd like to know why he decided first class macros were a bad idea.

Re: How the Collison brothers turned ‘seven lines of code’ into Stripe

#135

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My hope is they will not be acquired and will keep this stand-alone as a true alternative rather than be eaten and then to lose all their advantages. Acquisitions of companies like this usually spell the end of the line. Here's to hoping Stripe will IPO and will go on to acquire who could now potentially acquire them.

I'm not sure who'd have the ability to make that type of acquisition, to be honest. Maybe First Data? That would may even be a stretch.

I think a majority of their processing traffic goes through Wells Fargo. They would be a possible acquirer.

Re: How the Collison brothers turned ‘seven lines of code’ into Stripe

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The sandbox was a big hack. I worked there internally and it was a pain even inside. Maybe it's a bit different now, but I haven't looked back. :-D

It's actually gotten worse. PayPal tried to "modernize" their old crufty SOAP API with a REST-based API but ended up creating a separate half-functional, poorly documented, buggy layer on top of it that actually loses payments sometimes. I processed millions of payments through it and actually have their support people admitting the problems. Their only hope is a reverse-takeover from Braintree. I'm not holding my br…

In a series of calls with the top tier of support at Paypal, no one was able to even answer which API was the best to use. I was told not to use SOAP (or NVP), because they're ancient, not to use REST because it wasn't ready yet, and that the Braintree API around PayPal would never support the features we were trying to implement.

The project just ended up getting scrapped.

Re: How the Collison brothers turned ‘seven lines of code’ into Stripe

#137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And most importantly: Stripe does not randomly decide your funds are suddenly theirs for the next 6 months to a year.

That's the least of it. Paypal automatically puts you on a 21-60 day rolling reserve once you hit a certain level. Small businesses can and have had 30%+ of their revenue unavailable for two months. That's your entire profit margin gone. It makes it impossible to grow a small business. And of course they will not respond to anything for months if ever. And it never gets better! Companies with millions in revenue stil…

Before Stripe - I had to take a loan out, and make the switch to Authorize.net so I could get my company off PayPal and its 60 day reserve - otherwise it would have folded. They were perpetually holding tens of thousands of dollars at all times.

Re: How the Collison brothers turned ‘seven lines of code’ into Stripe

#138

The article mentions this but for me the truly great aspect of stripe is that they targeted the developer. I have dealt with several payment systems and most of them have poor documentation and getting them to work is a lot of trial and error. They appear to be monoliths who survive because management has chosen them. Stripe provides excellent documentation and support (on #stripe in freenode). It just makes my life…

OMG, support on IRC? That's so legit.

Re: How the Collison brothers turned ‘seven lines of code’ into Stripe

#140
post #4

~12 years ago, it was Patrick Collison that was named young scientist of the year for developing a dialect of Lisp called Croma: http://lemonodor.com/archives/001038.html I'm glad to see he has continued to do well.

lemonodor? Haven't heard that name in years.

Super glad that Patrick has found so much success, and created what seems like an amazing organization.

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