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Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

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Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

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Post by Certhas »

15charlimit wrote: post #65

But why? It's a browser. All it should do (and do well) is display content. I don't want a bunch of extra garbage tossed in because it sounds good on some marketing slide. Chrome has been and continues to eat FF's marketshare alive because it has been both faster and lighter. More junk is not going to help FF beat them.

Firefox is as fast and lighter, and has been for a while (the exception being Googles own webapps that are heavily Chrome optimized). This is stuff they are testing out in TestPilot, so it's for people who want to go add the TestPilot add on and then selectively enable these features.

So your complaint really makes zero sense.

Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

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Post by randie63 »

ece wrote: post #57
romanovcode wrote: post #20

I hope Firefox succeeds and destroys Chrome.

After the 54 release, it is the better browser frankly, low latency, and not a resource hog. Plugins, extensions, privacy and security defaults all seem to be better as well. Using firefox focus on android is pretty great too. The normal firefox on android is just slow, not sure why.

because its webview which is just chromium. They don't use the gecko engine like in desktop firefox

Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

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Post by leeoniya »

jo77 wrote: post #69
notheguyouthink wrote: post #2

I just wish it was .. faster. Lately I've been moving away from Google everywhere I can. I moved everything but Google Voice. Yes, even Google Search - I've moved to DuckDuckGo. On windows however, I had to fall back to Chrome, because I was just shocked at how slow Firefox was. Opening pages like Twitch.tv proved to be shockingly slow. Furthermore, my habit of opening many tabs in the background like I do in Chrome/…

This has a lot to do with the ever increasing incompetence of web devs than it has to do with Firefox imho. I do performance testing for a living and Firefox creams Chrome on sites where the devs know what they are doing. I don't think of Chrome as faster, but better designed to hide developer mistakes. Chrome basically keeps the mediocre developer who can't rtfm in business just the same way Microsoft did back in th…

speaking as a web dev who's obsessed with payload size, TTFB and web app performance, i find your statement to be patently false.

i have well-written code that runs very fast in FF, and it always runs even faster in Chrome. not just JS, but also repaint and layout. FF does handle some absurd cases better: giant dom trees & scrolling, RAM usage, lazy tabs.

as a long-time Firefox bug hunter and nightly user, i hope Firefox/Quantum & Servo can reverse this pattern, for sure.

Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

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Post by adito »

notheguyouthink wrote: post #60
lol768 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally I've found the recent Nightly with the new Rust CSS engine to be pretty snappy. I'd say anecdotally faster than Chrome. There was also a recent post regarding having large numbers of tabs open in Firefox (see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14823807 ) and it did pretty well.

Yea I'm definitely going to try switching to Nightly based on the comments here. As well as adjusting some of the configuration. Thanks!

Would you comment back here and gives your first impression on it? How fast is it compared to stable.

Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

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Post by H4CK3RM4N »

pcwalton wrote: post #35
artursapek wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't help that they keep cramming features into Firefox. Chrome feels pretty bare in comparison.

Chrome has consisted of significantly (i.e. millions of lines) more code than Firefox has for quite a while now.

I feel like I heard that a Chrome install was comparable in size to an average Linux install a year or two ago.

Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

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Post by goalieca »

ikurei wrote: post #48
mrspeaker wrote: post #28

I feel like I must be reaching the "get off my lawn" phase of my life, because I can't even comprehend a situation where I'd ever want to talk at my browser... maybe when I'm at home alone and, couldn't type for some reason? Certainly not in the office. Am I missing a use case, or am I just old now?

Actually, people who are very deep into the "get off my lawn" phase of their life, that is old people, are generally not the greatest typists. For them, the ability to talk instead of type, everywhere and not just in google search (which already has this) seems like a huge help. I'll never use it. It's completely useless to me. But if my grandma actually did anything else than Facebook on her computer I'd show this t…

> that is old people, are generally not the greatest typists.

Well.. and we're just fine with it. Simple works better somethings and why be in such a hurry sometimes. I look at these young whipersnappers who fly around the computer with windows attacking from all directions. They just seem to make things complicated without actually meeting the goal any faster.

Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

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Post by fabrice_d »

hexmiles wrote: post #12

what will happen to test pilot after the non-webextension are not allowed? As far i know must of these feature are implemented as extension and i don't thing webextension have the api to do a lot of thing that are in test pilot.

Note that Voice Fill is actually a WebExtension : https://github.com/mozilla/speaktome

Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

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Post by ohthehugemanate »

notheguyouthink wrote: post #2

I just wish it was .. faster. Lately I've been moving away from Google everywhere I can. I moved everything but Google Voice. Yes, even Google Search - I've moved to DuckDuckGo. On windows however, I had to fall back to Chrome, because I was just shocked at how slow Firefox was. Opening pages like Twitch.tv proved to be shockingly slow. Furthermore, my habit of opening many tabs in the background like I do in Chrome/…

When did you try?

I've been on Firefox developer edition for awhile now, because it's just SO MUCH FASTER than chrome, especially on high tab volume.

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