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Why Are Human Teeth So Messed Up?

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Re: Why Are Human Teeth So Messed Up?

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post #118

Why does the author's wife think that chewing meat causes choking? This seems like a rather bizarre belief - does this have any basis in reality? If anything I'd think that learning to chew your food well from a young age would make you less likely to choke. (and more likely to moderate your food intake) It seem like the equivalent of "don't let them walk, they will just fall and get a concussion"

She believed that their children would try to swallow without chewing their meat enough, and thus choke if the meat was in too big of pieces.

Tat reminds me of the time when one of our kids was about 6 and slammed down a couple of hot dogs without buns and ran upstairs to return to playing and barfed. The hot dog pieces that came out were very clearly not chewed. It was an interesting learning experience all around.

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post #126

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Any advice for finding a good dentist? I'm severely in need of a dentist after years upon years of neglect, mainly due to not being able to afford it, but now I'm in a position where I can at least work towards something proper. Yet, I've got no idea where to start. Thoughts?

Personal recommendations are usually how people find their dentists, I'm not sure there's any better way. Ask several colleagues and friends to talk to you in depth about their experiences. Make sure you ask if they recommended extensive expensive treatments, routinely recommending such treatments is a bad sign the dentist is doing unnecessary work for profit (which happens). Don't hesitate to call up different offic…

Really it's about recommendations, ask lots of people who they go to and why. I'd avoid a practice that's part of a chain like the plague, they are more likely to have a high turnover of dentists, who are under pressure to produce. I'd go for a small practice with at most a few dentists all ideally partners who are there for the long haul. Definitely avoid quick jobs like combining a holiday with treatment packages. If you've left things a long time, the first task may just be to stabilise things and then you can gradually get the things you want, done. There are always options and some cost a lot more than others. It's a trade off off involving satisfaction in terms of aesthetics and function, cost and the amount of time you'll need to spend in the chair. Sorry that all sounds a bit wafflely as i write it but it's true really.

Re: Why Are Human Teeth So Messed Up?

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There's a larger truth hidden in here: experts disagree. It was one of the things that took me by surprise when building Machine Learning systems, but it makes sense if you think about it. For all but the most trivial matters, it's the job of the expert to exercise personal judgement. It's why they're experts, not because they have a solid understanding of the "knowns", but because they have developed methods and int…

There is a corollary prediction: AIs will disagree. Too many people imagine AIs are somehow "perfectly rational" and therefore will never disagree, they'll just tap into a unified decision making engine and automatically integrate all of their knowledge. In order to integrate knowledge you need more knowledge. And in order to integrate that you need more still. It's turtles all the way down. If anything, AIs are at a…

If AI is to agree they need all the facts. And as we keep adding facts almost daily, there is simply no chance that the AI will have all the facts.

We like to think of logic as 1+1=2. But logic is more like A+B-C*D/E=F. Where any number of those being either completely unknown (we sometimes do not even know we are missing them), or some wide range of potential values.

Re: Why Are Human Teeth So Messed Up?

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This is also part of why white bread was historically considered healthier - removing the wheat germ and bran kind of faked the look of stone-grain-free bread.

Would you happen to have a reference on that?

A quick Google Books search found,

  Tosefta Berachot: Translated Into English with a Commentary

  https://books.google.com/books?id=ronqNAPipaEC&pg=PA189

Re: Why Are Human Teeth So Messed Up?

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post #144

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Would you happen to have a reference on that?

A quick Google Books search found, Tosefta Berachot: Translated Into English with a Commentary https://books.google.com/books?id=ronqNAPipaEC&pg=PA189

Ah, an even better reference, from 1906, which also mentions teeth.

  Lieut.-Colonel Allan Cunningham desired to contrast the
  highly scientific process of grinding in use at the present
  day in all civilised counties with the unscientific process
  of grinding on a very large scale amongst the huge
  population of North-West India, which was essentially a
  wheat-eating population. The wheat was ground there in hand
  stone mills; the grinding was coarse, and separation of the
  bran very imperfect, there being a good deal of bran in the
  so-called flour. The bread was unleavened bread, whereas the
  bread eaten in this country was leavened bread, which made
  in immense difference in its effect on the constitution. The
  native flour was simply kneaded with water, and quickly
  heated over a griddle. With the addition of a little milk,
  butter, and salt, that was the staple food of the
  population.  The effect of the diet was that the population
  were inferior on the whole in physique to Europeans, but it
  must remembered that they did not have a varied diet. The
  people had extremely beautiful teeth which they carefully
  cleaned. One very curious effect, which was always ascribed
  to the eating of the native ground what, was that the
  natives were extraordinarily subject to stone, even little
  children frequently having bigs stones in the bladder.

  Journal of the Society of Arts, December 21, 1906.

  https://books.google.com/books?id=DfpFAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA127

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The author of this article works at the University of Arkansas. I used to live 20 miles from there, and when we needed to "straighten" my son's teeth, we ended up checking out an orthodontist who has been influenced by the new school of thought that is emerging in Australia and Europe on dealing with orthodontic issues. We ended up settling on a regimen of jaw exercises combined with a device known as a "Myobrace". I…

If you don't mind my asking, how old is your son? I'm guessing this procedure is limited by age, since bone development stops as you get older?

Correct! This is for children only. My son was 9 when we started the treatment.

Re: Why Are Human Teeth So Messed Up?

#147
post #118

Why does the author's wife think that chewing meat causes choking? This seems like a rather bizarre belief - does this have any basis in reality? If anything I'd think that learning to chew your food well from a young age would make you less likely to choke. (and more likely to moderate your food intake) It seem like the equivalent of "don't let them walk, they will just fall and get a concussion"

Do you have kids? Everybody thinks everything causes choking. People stop you on the street to tell you how to feed your toddlers. Grapes were particularly suspect in our neighborhood. People cut them in half, believing it was safer. You are right, I'm sure, about chewing being important to learn; and it would have to be a tiny piece in order for it to be hard to choke on it, anyway, so cutting it small certainly won…

I don't know how frequent kids choking is. All I know is that their gag reflex is pretty powerful and should keep them out of danger (for the most part).

Re: Why Are Human Teeth So Messed Up?

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post #83

I wonder what else might be going wrong with our bodies as a result of our childhood habits. For instance, are my hips genetically shallow or did I spend too little time outside running about as a kid?

What do you big toes look like? Do they line up with the Extensor Hallucis Longus Tendon, the major ridge the runs along the interior of the top of your foot, or do they curve inward?

Re: Why Are Human Teeth So Messed Up?

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It always struck me as funny that if you want to get into Medicine you can either do the normal MD course that covers 95% of the body (obviously, you may be able to specialize much later on) OR you can do the other 5% as a Dentist (and again, you may chose to specialize later). Teeth suck, I'm hanging out for "I can't believe they're not teeth" implants so I can stop worrying about the damn things.

It's really only an accident of history. This Atlantic piece goes into it: https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2017/03/why-denti...

Re: Why Are Human Teeth So Messed Up?

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It always struck me as funny that if you want to get into Medicine you can either do the normal MD course that covers 95% of the body (obviously, you may be able to specialize much later on) OR you can do the other 5% as a Dentist (and again, you may chose to specialize later). Teeth suck, I'm hanging out for "I can't believe they're not teeth" implants so I can stop worrying about the damn things.

I have an "I can't believe it's not a tooth" implant, after I lost a front tooth when I crashed a tiny motorcycle. They drilled a hole in my jaw, beefed it up with a "cadaver bone" from a pig, threaded a titanium bolt into the hole, and then threaded a tooth-lookalike into the titanium bolt. The installation is a bit... industrial, but you'd never know it wasn't a real tooth. It cost £3,000 though.

Neato, from a 'user' perspective how is it? Does it feel or work any different to a usual tooth?
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