New iPhone leaks show tap to wake, attention detection, and virtual home button

Post by Shivetya » Tue, Aug 01, 2017, 2:41 PM UTC

potatolicious wrote: post #18

untog wrote: post #7

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Not really - there's a reason why the Android phones that have tap to wake require two taps in quick succession, or similar. It's very difficult to accidentally trigger it. The facial recognition stuff seems odd to me, in the sense that I can't really figure out what it would be used for (aside from a silly smile detector in the camera app), but hopefully it'll be locked behind permission prompts (or barely accessibl…

The rumor mill suggests that the face detect is used for authentication, and is there because Apple hasn't been able to get the fingerprint sensor to read through the screen, and they need a quick-unlock feature like TouchID. I hope it works - I rather like TouchID and would be disappointed to have it replaced by something crappier.

Post by michaelbrooks » Tue, Aug 01, 2017, 2:47 PM UTC

Eric_WVGG wrote: post #11

untog wrote: post #7

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Not really - there's a reason why the Android phones that have tap to wake require two taps in quick succession, or similar. It's very difficult to accidentally trigger it. The facial recognition stuff seems odd to me, in the sense that I can't really figure out what it would be used for (aside from a silly smile detector in the camera app), but hopefully it'll be locked behind permission prompts (or barely accessibl…

It's to replace (or supplement) TouchID. Probably also useful for AR stuff down the road. I was skeptical, but I have a friend who has a similar thing running on his Windows box and it works surprisingly well.

Post by potatolicious » Tue, Aug 01, 2017, 3:04 PM UTC

Shivetya wrote: post #21

potatolicious wrote: post #18

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The rumor mill suggests that the face detect is used for authentication, and is there because Apple hasn't been able to get the fingerprint sensor to read through the screen, and they need a quick-unlock feature like TouchID. I hope it works - I rather like TouchID and would be disappointed to have it replaced by something crappier.

there were other rumors pointing to the touch id being integrated on the sides of the device and even worse but discredited rumor of it being moved to the back. my concern with any facial recognition replacing what is currently in use is that many times I unlock my phone without having to look at it and rely on that. The old slip it out of my pocket and quick glance to see if I need to address something now

Post by dschep » Tue, Aug 01, 2017, 3:13 PM UTC

untog wrote: post #7

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Handling a smart phone is already stressful enough. You can't touch the entire front of phone in fear of accidentally tapping something, even if the screen is off because it might turn on at any moment. With tap to wake you have to worry about just bumping it and with facial expressions you'd literally need to be concerned about just looking at it funny.

Not really - there's a reason why the Android phones that have tap to wake require two taps in quick succession, or similar. It's very difficult to accidentally trigger it. The facial recognition stuff seems odd to me, in the sense that I can't really figure out what it would be used for (aside from a silly smile detector in the camera app), but hopefully it'll be locked behind permission prompts (or barely accessibl…

Post by untog » Tue, Aug 01, 2017, 3:16 PM UTC

abhi3 wrote: post #24

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> I think you can apply this strategy to ads too, to learn what kind of ad an user likes or dislikes, so they can target the ads a little bit better/easier. Which is exactly why I will refuse to give any facial recognition data to third party apps.

Why? If you are going to be seeing ads anyway, might as well see better targeted and useful ads that make your face cheer up. Don't get all the cynicism.