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Dell XPS 15 9560 Review

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Re: Dell XPS 15 9560 Review

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Post by rocketon »

Dell is trash and thats why I will soon release www.shitdell.com - to let people around the world to know what kind of shitty product they are getting.

I'm from Brazil and over here everything that Dell sells is trash. Dell Inspiron's hinge breaks usually after 1 year, so you better buy an extended warranty... but why in the hell would you buy an middle to expensive notebook that you know it is made with bad quality and that you need to pay more for extended warranty?

Dell doesn't deserve to exist as a company and soon I will help more people learn about how trashy are Dell's products...

Re: Dell XPS 15 9560 Review

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Post by PopsiclePete »

rocketon wrote: post #131

Dell is trash and thats why I will soon release www.shitdell.com - to let people around the world to know what kind of shitty product they are getting. I'm from Brazil and over here everything that Dell sells is trash. Dell Inspiron's hinge breaks usually after 1 year, so you better buy an extended warranty... but why in the hell would you buy an middle to expensive notebook that you know it is made with bad quality…

Inspiron is not great, yeah. But my XPS 13" 9350 rocks. No hinge problems.

I have a feeling it's your country's insane import tariffs that are the real problem...

Re: Dell XPS 15 9560 Review

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Post by JohnTHaller »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #112
JohnTHaller wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are a lot of reports of killer drivers causing issues. My friend needed help with his Alienware 15 because it started instantly blue screening as the login screen came up at every boot. Dell's only solution was a factory reset. I dug into it and a release of the official killer wifi drivers was bugged. They had to be disabled to actually boot. They couldn't be uninstalled or upgraded in safe mode because they u…

>They couldn't be uninstalled or upgraded in safe mode // Isn't this entirely broken, surely no one designed it so you couldn't fix applications in safe-mode?

You can enable and disable drivers and startup functionality in safe mode. You can't install or uninstall any apps or drivers that utilize Windows Installer as the service isn't running, rendering the install/uninstall/modify abilities of those apps and drivers useless. You can still install and uninstall apps and drivers that use proper installers like NSIS, etc.

Re: Dell XPS 15 9560 Review

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Post by sz4kerto »

luxcem wrote: post #114
jgalt212 wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

high DPI is an even more troublesome issue with Linux. As of right now, for me, high DPI is not worth it outside of the Apple walled garden.

The https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HiDPI is a wonderful resource to solve practically every troubles.

It is a wonderful resource, but doesn't solve all trouble. It specifically says that the only modern DE that supports hidpi scaling well is KDE. Gnome hidpi support is crap (no fractional scaling), Unity is going away. Sway and the rest are of course cool, but most people use some kind of GUI toolkit like GTK that either supports hidpi or not (mostly not well).

Re: Dell XPS 15 9560 Review

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Post by sametmax »

luxcem wrote: post #111
wslh wrote: post #5

If you want to buy one you should extend your analysis beyond the hardware specs because the software and operating systems are not ready yet. I can give the example of the latest XPS 13 2-1 where Office applications like Outlook cannot recognize a monitor with a different resolution and the fonts are blurred. Look for example at https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Office-apps-appear-... high DPI is a whole issu…

XPS 13 on linux (ubuntu) here, the support is very good. The HiDPI screen need some configuration but most apps will run out of the box, some need to set a parameter for pixel density. Most issues can be solve by looking in the ArchWiki ( https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HiDPI ). USB-C (even a dock with power, usb, sound, hdmi, display port, ethernet will run fine), WiFi, Graphic Card, touchpad, sound, event the…

The xps 13 and 15 are very different machine, the xps 13 as good feedback, while le 15 not so much

Re: Dell XPS 15 9560 Review

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Post by gkfasdfasdf »

blunte wrote: post #49

My experience with my 1-month-old maxed out 9560: - less precise trackpad than my 3 year old rMBP - palm-sensitive trackpad - failure that politely states that I need to reboot (if I try to use fingerprint reader to login too quickly after opening the laptop) - unplanned reboots due to updates - laggy and choppy video on a single external 4k monitor (compared to no apparent lag when the old rMBP drives 2x 4k monitors…

> And you can't play on an external monitor... too laggy and limited to 30Hz refresh.

Did you use an HDMI cable or USB-C to HDMI adapter? Since the spec says the HDMI port is 1.4 only, I'd like to know if using a USB-C to HDMI 2.0 adapter will give you more bandwidth, allowing you to do 4k at 60hz with 4:4:4 chroma support.

Re: Dell XPS 15 9560 Review

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Post by sz4kerto »

moosingin3space wrote: post #87
chimeracoder wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> high DPI is an even more troublesome issue with Linux. As of right now, for me, high DPI is not worth it outside of the Apple walled garden. Actual 4K resolution works way better on Linux than it does on OS X. By default, OS X will use 2560x1440, even on a display that's capable of 3840x2160. If you try to set it to the latter on OS X in your display settings, it looks really terrible. The experience is less consis…

On Fedora 26 with Wayland, high-DPI works pretty well in my experience.

It does not. If you have e.g. QHD on a 13" laptop, then it's cool because 2x scaling works. On my 32" 4K display, it's bad because I'd need 125% or 150% scaling, not 100% or 200%.

Re: Dell XPS 15 9560 Review

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Post by r1ch »

oulu2006 wrote: post #15
wslh wrote: post #5

If you want to buy one you should extend your analysis beyond the hardware specs because the software and operating systems are not ready yet. I can give the example of the latest XPS 13 2-1 where Office applications like Outlook cannot recognize a monitor with a different resolution and the fonts are blurred. Look for example at https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Office-apps-appear-... high DPI is a whole issu…

Very true, the previous XPS 15 had huge problems with the Killer NIC card because the drivers for it took months to stabilise and its only recently been that a driver update has made the Wifi somewhat stable and the machine has stopped crashing every few days. What other people seem to have done is get Dell to swap the Killer NIC with an Intel one which has much better driver support.

I hate how prevalent Killer NIC chips have become. They seem to be racing to the bottom with cheap wireless and ethernet PHYs with crappy drivers, yet their reputation hasn't quite caught up. Their marketing brands them as premium and a lot of manufacturers still buy into it to target the "gaming" segment (which also hates them).

I refuse to buy any board which has these chips and will pay a small premium for an Intel or Realtek instead.

Re: Dell XPS 15 9560 Review

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Post by sametmax »

I have had a XPS 15 9550 as my main machine for almost a year now, and I can say I'm disatisfied.

It needs a very specific combinations of driver update and bio flashing to work, charging using USB-C sometimes just stops, making it work with a dock took me a good month to figure out, the battery last only a few hours, the webcam is weirdly placed. Worst of all, the sound has suddenly started to act wildly and is now full of cracks.

Given the price I paid for it (2500 € to include a 1 To hard drive and 32 Gb of RAM), I found it less than satisfactory.

But what is infuriating is that some very big problems (like BSOD level) where brought to the attention to the Dell staff on their support forum and the post have been dormant without clear answer from their part for months.

My previously positive perception of the dell brand have been seriously ternished. This is not just bad manufacturing, it's really bad marketting.

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