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Re: Dell XPS 15 9560 Review

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Post by pknopf »

velobro wrote: post #85
masklinn wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

/r/dell lists serious issues with the Killer NIC, coil whine, thermal limitations (when playing), speakers are bad ("average android 4.0 device sounds"), Win10 scaling make 4K display still not great (especially with external low-density displays), backlit keyboard disabling itself, some people get absolutely dreadful battery life.

I really don't know why anyone would order a laptop from Dell, or any other OEM for that matter. Dell and their like, obviously, aren't at the for-front of laptop design. They are still using plastic and calling Carbon fiber a "premium" laptop material (it isn't). They are using second rate network adapters. They are using second rate SSDs which have terrible write speeds. Windows trackpads arent any better than they…

What vendor would you recommend?

Re: Dell XPS 15 9560 Review

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Post by fhood »

blunte wrote: post #52
Arzh wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use the XPS 15 in an office with only mac users and this machine is just more powerful since Apple wont update the Macbook Pro line with developers in mind. I hated working on an under performing laptop when I was using the macs.

The specs would agree with you, but my real life side-by-side experience only demonstrates that the XPS is better for gaming. For everything else, my old rMBP is as fast or faster. And my Mac runs for weeks, sometimes > 2 months, without a reboot. I've had to reboot the XPS on average twice a week (due to crashes, or updates, or really weird performance drops).

Not needing to reboot is a massively underrated feature imo

Re: Dell XPS 15 9560 Review

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Post by fhood »

porkbelly wrote: post #59
highace wrote: post #28

As a developer I can't imagine buying anything other than a Macbook Pro, and I mainly use Windows. The build quality is top of the line, the drivers are solid, and everything just works. The trackpad is industry leading, and the keyboard is great too. Performance is exceptional, especially in the 15" which comes with a HQ processor (not ultrabook-grade) and a discrete graphics card. It has a PCI-e SSD. The price is r…

Doesn't it bother you to be led around by the nose like that? Apple refuses to open up their dev space, like the worst kind of community citizen, and your response is to support that behaviour?

I support companies that release high quality products.

Re: Dell XPS 15 9560 Review

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Post by rixrax »

blunte wrote: post #49

My experience with my 1-month-old maxed out 9560: - less precise trackpad than my 3 year old rMBP - palm-sensitive trackpad - failure that politely states that I need to reboot (if I try to use fingerprint reader to login too quickly after opening the laptop) - unplanned reboots due to updates - laggy and choppy video on a single external 4k monitor (compared to no apparent lag when the old rMBP drives 2x 4k monitors…

>> - less precise trackpad than my 3 year old rMBP >> - palm-sensitive trackpad

This! I sound like a broken record, but what is wrong with the PC manufacturers not getting the trackpad right/close(r) to how (well) Apple MBP trackpads operate?

Yes, they may have been improving, but going back from MBP to PC laptop is simply infuriating as a result of lack of accuracy of their trackpads. And to back up my subjective assessment of the situation, I have been making a point to make a walk through of the Microsoft store about every 6 months to test out (the trackpads) of all the shiniest PC laptops on display.

Re: Dell XPS 15 9560 Review

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Post by charlespwd »

jvehent wrote: post #92

I have this laptop and run archlinux on it. It's a great machine, and almost everything works straight out of the box (even the external docking station).

Same here. Precision 5520 (the business edition of the XPS). Only thing I wish I took was the better GPU. 4K screen + external screen can be a lot to ask from the onboard graphics.

Other than that, it is so much more performant than my old MBP. Couldn't be happier to have 32GB of ram and the infinity display.

Re: Dell XPS 15 9560 Review

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Post by kingosticks »

clvx wrote: post #8
chimeracoder wrote: post #3

I've used the XPS 13 Developer Edition (ie, running Linux) as my daily driver since 2012. For me, it's been way more reliable than either the ThinkPad X1 or even the MacBook Pro, both of which I used as my work laptops during that same time (running Linux and OS X respectively). I've been hoping to upgrade to the 15-inch for a while, because I like larger screens. It's nice to see the review of this point release ver…

I have the xps13 2016 dev edition too, and it's a solid laptop. Let me ask you which dongle do you use to connect to external hdmi monitors? I got this one[1] a while ago, but it doesn't output more than 800x600. I use the wd15 at home without issues, but it's not suitable for traveling. [1] https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Adapter-Type-Ethernet-470-ABQN/d...

I'm not sure if this is any help to you, maybe your issue is specific to the 2016 model, but I've used this[1] with my xps13 2015 without any issue. It's cheap too!

[1] https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0123PJ9BK

Re: Dell XPS 15 9560 Review

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Post by nonamechicken »

rocky1138 wrote: post #96

> The XPS 15 was never a gaming laptop With a full GTX 1050 it pretty much can be. This looks like a great machine. How is Linux support?

I have the older xps 15 9530. If you try to run any decent game (spec wise easy for the laptop to handle), it will throttle down to 10 fps or less within 5 minutes. When I contacted customer care, they said since this is an ultrabook, this is expected and that they couldn't do anything.

So, my advice would be to research thoroughly if you are buying an XPS for gaming.

Re: Dell XPS 15 9560 Review

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Post by artursapek »

jgalt212 wrote: post #36
wslh wrote: post #5

If you want to buy one you should extend your analysis beyond the hardware specs because the software and operating systems are not ready yet. I can give the example of the latest XPS 13 2-1 where Office applications like Outlook cannot recognize a monitor with a different resolution and the fonts are blurred. Look for example at https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Office-apps-appear-... high DPI is a whole issu…

high DPI is an even more troublesome issue with Linux. As of right now, for me, high DPI is not worth it outside of the Apple walled garden.

Ubuntu 16.04 handles it really nicely, but it requires a few hacks to get things like Chrome + Thunderbird to scale properly.
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