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Re: Dell XPS 15 9560 Review

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Post by deong »

oulu2006 wrote: post #15
wslh wrote: post #5

If you want to buy one you should extend your analysis beyond the hardware specs because the software and operating systems are not ready yet. I can give the example of the latest XPS 13 2-1 where Office applications like Outlook cannot recognize a monitor with a different resolution and the fonts are blurred. Look for example at https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Office-apps-appear-... high DPI is a whole issu…

Very true, the previous XPS 15 had huge problems with the Killer NIC card because the drivers for it took months to stabilise and its only recently been that a driver update has made the Wifi somewhat stable and the machine has stopped crashing every few days. What other people seem to have done is get Dell to swap the Killer NIC with an Intel one which has much better driver support.

If you don't want to bother with dealing with Dell, they do provide official repair guides on their site telling you exactly how to do it. I bought the prior generation of the XPS 13, and for $25, an Intel 7625 wifi card. Took me about 20 minutes to swap it out.

Re: Dell XPS 15 9560 Review

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Post by sp0ck »

cm2187 wrote: post #58
sp0ck wrote: post #53

This laptop looks like mixed bag of opinions. I'm looking something to switch from rMPB 2013 (need more RAM, storage). That laptop i still on my list but on last position. I had rMBP2016 for 3 months and I could't write on that keyboard. After 1-2 hr's I felt pain in my fingers because constant contact of my nails with that keyboard. And I don't have some bear nails :) Sold it and now my short list is 1. Lenovo X1 ca…

I suggest the lattitude E7470 or E7480 (if you don't see a laptop as a fashion statement). Light, practical, enough ports (the E7470 has a full Ethernet port) and a boring keyboard (which is what I expect from a keyboard).

My friend have one of lattitude models (12.5") and those Dell business screens are not the best ones IMO. Maybe I'm wrong but it is hard to find reseller that have those on the shelf to touch and feel :/

Re: Dell XPS 15 9560 Review

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Post by post_break »

cm2187 wrote: post #47
post_break wrote: post #35

I wish business laptops still existed. I bought a 5 year old laptop because you can't get anything today with serviceable parts or design that makes sense. The thinkpad retro can't get here soon enough (assuming it actually has function keys and isn't slimmed down just to be slim).

The lattitude E74xx series is pretty good, I upgraded the RAM and disk on every model I owned. And they still come with win7 drivers. But the latest generation (E7480) has dropped the full Ethernet port with the same sort of foldable port that Sony used on its z-series and they break too easily. You should try a E7470 which has a full Ethernet port while still being an ultra book. Also they haven't tried to be creati…

I'm rocking a thinkpad x230 and I will probably continue to do so until they stop making decent batteries for it. I will weep when I can no longer use it.

Re: Dell XPS 15 9560 Review

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Post by estsauver »

highace wrote: post #28

As a developer I can't imagine buying anything other than a Macbook Pro, and I mainly use Windows. The build quality is top of the line, the drivers are solid, and everything just works. The trackpad is industry leading, and the keyboard is great too. Performance is exceptional, especially in the 15" which comes with a HQ processor (not ultrabook-grade) and a discrete graphics card. It has a PCI-e SSD. The price is r…

As a counterpoint, I have a lenovo p50 and I couldn't possibly be happier. I'm frequently developing on a Scala backend with a mobile frontend. If you don't want memory pressure, 16GB just won't do it, but my 64GB does phenomenally.

And since I'm often working in Kenya it can be quite difficult to get service for Apple, having parts I can switch out with a screwdriver is a huge blessing. And it's stupidly tough, I've fallen directly on it and it's survived in the past.

Re: Dell XPS 15 9560 Review

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Post by chimeracoder »

ClassyJacket wrote: post #10
chimeracoder wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> seriously one big thing that's a no-no for me is only HDMI1.4 (not HDMI2.0). It means that you can't do 4K@60Hz. You can, using the Thunderbolt 3 port. I run my XPS 13 at 4K@60Hz using the mini-DP port, and Thunderbolt 3 is capable of that and more.

Not to a TV, tho, which makes it a deal breaker for me. They should put a proper HDMI port.

> Not to a TV, tho, which makes it a deal breaker for me. They should put a proper HDMI port.

I'd rather have an extra Thunderbolt 3/USB-C port, to be honest. HDMI 2.0 is bigger and clunkier as a port, and Thunderbolt 3 is strictly better as a protocol (we're not even talking about HDMI 2.1). Maybe if you're talking HDMI 2.1, but the protocol can still be carried over a USB-C connector anyway, so keeping the standard connector interface is preferable in my books.

My bet is that TVs will soon start to have USB-C ports built-in (with whichever protocols they're willing to support). In the meantime, an adapter will do the trick; it can even live with the TV, since that's not meant to be portable.

Re: Dell XPS 15 9560 Review

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Post by cm2187 »

sp0ck wrote: post #72
cm2187 wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suggest the lattitude E7470 or E7480 (if you don't see a laptop as a fashion statement). Light, practical, enough ports (the E7470 has a full Ethernet port) and a boring keyboard (which is what I expect from a keyboard).

My friend have one of lattitude models (12.5") and those Dell business screens are not the best ones IMO. Maybe I'm wrong but it is hard to find reseller that have those on the shelf to touch and feel :/

I never felt like it was a cheap screen but I am probably not the best judge. I own a E7270 too but I find that format to be too small for any serious work. 14in is a good balance between being portable and comfortable.

Re: Dell XPS 15 9560 Review

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Post by stinos »

jrimbault wrote: post #26
trzeci wrote: post #22

Hi, I've had lots of problems with the previous version of XPS15 - 9550 (More info @ https://trzeci.eu/dell-xps-15-9550-was-the-most-problematic-... ) It was included: problem with CPU and random freezes, Coil Whine, Swollen Battery, SSD problem and problem with misaligned Jack port with a hole in case. In total, my device was repaired 3 times (within 10 months) and from the original device I have a case, touch-pad a…

Did you get yours near the launch ? Maybe it was a manufacturing issue ? Hopefully ?

They're definitely not all of them that bad, a colleague has one which functions perfectly and overall reviews seem on the positive side. But yeah, once in a while sh*t happens. E.g. I've had/used multiple Dell devices without any problems whatsoever but I recommended some Dell precision latop to a friend and it came basically DOA.

Re: Dell XPS 15 9560 Review

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Post by maxxxxx »

StavrosK wrote: post #67
stuff4ben wrote: post #60

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> Too bad Apple no longer caters to my crowd What is "your crowd"? Only thing I wish my rMBP had was more than 16GB of RAM for some of the dev I do. Other than that, I can't see switching anytime soon.

I don't know about the GP, but my crowd is upgradable RAM.

Same here. At least let me upgrade RAM and disk. I don't want to have to buy a 1TB disk now just in case I may need one later.

Re: Dell XPS 15 9560 Review

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Post by chimeracoder »

jgalt212 wrote: post #36
wslh wrote: post #5

If you want to buy one you should extend your analysis beyond the hardware specs because the software and operating systems are not ready yet. I can give the example of the latest XPS 13 2-1 where Office applications like Outlook cannot recognize a monitor with a different resolution and the fonts are blurred. Look for example at https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Office-apps-appear-... high DPI is a whole issu…

high DPI is an even more troublesome issue with Linux. As of right now, for me, high DPI is not worth it outside of the Apple walled garden.

> high DPI is an even more troublesome issue with Linux. As of right now, for me, high DPI is not worth it outside of the Apple walled garden.

Actual 4K resolution works way better on Linux than it does on OS X. By default, OS X will use 2560x1440, even on a display that's capable of 3840x2160. If you try to set it to the latter on OS X in your display settings, it looks really terrible.

The experience is less consistent on Linux in 3840x2160, but overall it's much better, and it's well-supported by the common applications that Linux users would use (Firefox/Chrome, terminal emulators, any GTK+ 3 or Qt 5 applications, and more).

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Post by cmrx64 »

alvarosevilla95 wrote: post #69
stuff4ben wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Too bad Apple no longer caters to my crowd What is "your crowd"? Only thing I wish my rMBP had was more than 16GB of RAM for some of the dev I do. Other than that, I can't see switching anytime soon.

Since we're on HN, I'll assume 'his crowd' is software development. How has apple stopped catering this crowd? Let me give you my opinion. The new macbook pro's main feature is one that is totally useless to professionals. The touch bar is an interesting idea for the casual user, but for anyone who uses any software professionally, it provides no value as it is much slower than keyboard shortcuts. Not to mention that…

meanwhile, game and graphics developers are dying due to lack of modern opengl or, god forbid, opencl or vulkan.
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