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Dell XPS 15 9560 Review

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Re: Dell XPS 15 9560 Review

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Post by rasengan »

If you use Linux like arch please make sure to set kernel mode parameters to get your video to work. I also had a lot better luck swapping in an intel 8265 but the one it comes with works fine when you have a good signal.

All in all the 9560 has replaced my Mac as a daily driver.

Edit: Incase, to save time for someone, put this in kernel mode parameters in the file /boot/grub/grub.cfg and rerun grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg.

nouveau.modeset=0 acpi_rev_override=1 enable_psr=1 disable_power_well=0

Re: Dell XPS 15 9560 Review

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Post by jpkeisala »

highace wrote: post #28

As a developer I can't imagine buying anything other than a Macbook Pro, and I mainly use Windows. The build quality is top of the line, the drivers are solid, and everything just works. The trackpad is industry leading, and the keyboard is great too. Performance is exceptional, especially in the 15" which comes with a HQ processor (not ultrabook-grade) and a discrete graphics card. It has a PCI-e SSD. The price is r…

I am also developer and I changed last year from Mac to Dell XPS 13". I would have stayed on Mac but the new keyboard felt strange, touchbar is... well I felt it is time to try something new. One surprising feature that I though I would never use is touch screen. I really like it and I thought it would be useless.

There are some things that I think could be better. I think Windows is a bit ugly, hardware does not feel polished like in Apple but it's not nowhere as bad as Dells used to be. The only thing I go back to Mac when I need to do iOS stuff and sometimes when i get something from designers in Sketch format but it is unlikely that I will return to MBP anytime soon.

Re: Dell XPS 15 9560 Review

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Post by mysterypie »

Any driver issues or other advice about running Windows 7 on this?

(I don't want to use Windows 8 or 10 because of telemetry, nor do I want to spend countless hours trying to figure out how to disable all telemetry, and worry about future updates that introduce more telemetry. I'm happy staying at Window 7.)

Re: Dell XPS 15 9560 Review

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Post by kalleboo »

sp00ls wrote: post #38
highace wrote: post #28

As a developer I can't imagine buying anything other than a Macbook Pro, and I mainly use Windows. The build quality is top of the line, the drivers are solid, and everything just works. The trackpad is industry leading, and the keyboard is great too. Performance is exceptional, especially in the 15" which comes with a HQ processor (not ultrabook-grade) and a discrete graphics card. It has a PCI-e SSD. The price is r…

Same..Look at the comments for an XPS/whatever manufacturer flagship device release and you'll find mostly 'this works great except sometimes it explodes' and then back and forth a bunch of times where someone claims that it works for them, while someone else brings up something else that randomly doesn't work for them. No thanks..

Heck just look in the comments on this very Hacker News post...

Re: Dell XPS 15 9560 Review

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Post by StavrosK »

wslh wrote: post #5

If you want to buy one you should extend your analysis beyond the hardware specs because the software and operating systems are not ready yet. I can give the example of the latest XPS 13 2-1 where Office applications like Outlook cannot recognize a monitor with a different resolution and the fonts are blurred. Look for example at https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Office-apps-appear-... high DPI is a whole issu…

Mine has a problem with stuck keys. If I press caps lock+w, the w stays pressed (in software) so I just get long strings of wwwwww. The spacebar also gets double-pressed around 5% of the time, which is extremely annoying.

Another issue is that audio to the headphones will sometimes just stop until I restart pulse. Not even a reboot will fix it, only a pulse restart.

It's a fantastic machine otherwise, but the drivers are pretty buggy.

Re: Dell XPS 15 9560 Review

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Post by StavrosK »

stuff4ben wrote: post #60
blunte wrote: post #49

My experience with my 1-month-old maxed out 9560: - less precise trackpad than my 3 year old rMBP - palm-sensitive trackpad - failure that politely states that I need to reboot (if I try to use fingerprint reader to login too quickly after opening the laptop) - unplanned reboots due to updates - laggy and choppy video on a single external 4k monitor (compared to no apparent lag when the old rMBP drives 2x 4k monitors…

> Too bad Apple no longer caters to my crowd What is "your crowd"? Only thing I wish my rMBP had was more than 16GB of RAM for some of the dev I do. Other than that, I can't see switching anytime soon.

I don't know about the GP, but my crowd is upgradable RAM.

Re: Dell XPS 15 9560 Review

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Post by wslh »

mabbo wrote: post #51
wslh wrote: post #5

If you want to buy one you should extend your analysis beyond the hardware specs because the software and operating systems are not ready yet. I can give the example of the latest XPS 13 2-1 where Office applications like Outlook cannot recognize a monitor with a different resolution and the fonts are blurred. Look for example at https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Office-apps-appear-... high DPI is a whole issu…

> Office applications like Outlook cannot recognize a monitor with a different resolution and the fonts are blurred I just spent 30 minutes this morning dealing with this exact issue on my laptop that I've docked into two nice external monitors. To fix it, open the display settings and set one of the external monitors to the primary display. Then log out, and log back in. I have no idea why this works, but if it hadn…

It doesn't work with Microsoft Office, it is a known issue that Microsoft Office doesn't support that setting. With Google Chrome it will work because all the work is done by the browser.

Look also at this future update: https://www.google.com.ar/amp/www.zdnet.com/google-amp/artic...

Re: Dell XPS 15 9560 Review

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Post by alvarosevilla95 »

stuff4ben wrote: post #60
blunte wrote: post #49

My experience with my 1-month-old maxed out 9560: - less precise trackpad than my 3 year old rMBP - palm-sensitive trackpad - failure that politely states that I need to reboot (if I try to use fingerprint reader to login too quickly after opening the laptop) - unplanned reboots due to updates - laggy and choppy video on a single external 4k monitor (compared to no apparent lag when the old rMBP drives 2x 4k monitors…

> Too bad Apple no longer caters to my crowd What is "your crowd"? Only thing I wish my rMBP had was more than 16GB of RAM for some of the dev I do. Other than that, I can't see switching anytime soon.

Since we're on HN, I'll assume 'his crowd' is software development.

How has apple stopped catering this crowd? Let me give you my opinion.

The new macbook pro's main feature is one that is totally useless to professionals. The touch bar is an interesting idea for the casual user, but for anyone who uses any software professionally, it provides no value as it is much slower than keyboard shortcuts. Not to mention that the lack of tactile feedback means you need to look away from the monitor to use it.

The new design has force a redesign in the keyboard, giving it much lower travel, and it is now a lot more uncomfortable to use (this one in particular is quite subjective)

16GB is just not enough in the era of containers.

The price. It's just absurd and some of the most expensive features (TB) are just useless as I stated above.

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