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Re: Dell XPS 15 9560 Review

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Post by mabbo »

wslh wrote: post #5

If you want to buy one you should extend your analysis beyond the hardware specs because the software and operating systems are not ready yet. I can give the example of the latest XPS 13 2-1 where Office applications like Outlook cannot recognize a monitor with a different resolution and the fonts are blurred. Look for example at https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Office-apps-appear-... high DPI is a whole issu…

> Office applications like Outlook cannot recognize a monitor with a different resolution and the fonts are blurred

I just spent 30 minutes this morning dealing with this exact issue on my laptop that I've docked into two nice external monitors.

To fix it, open the display settings and set one of the external monitors to the primary display. Then log out, and log back in.

I have no idea why this works, but if it hadn't I'd have chucked the laptop out the window by now. Windows 10 is almost great, but for a dozen little stupid things like this.

Re: Dell XPS 15 9560 Review

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Post by blunte »

Arzh wrote: post #43
highace wrote: post #28

As a developer I can't imagine buying anything other than a Macbook Pro, and I mainly use Windows. The build quality is top of the line, the drivers are solid, and everything just works. The trackpad is industry leading, and the keyboard is great too. Performance is exceptional, especially in the 15" which comes with a HQ processor (not ultrabook-grade) and a discrete graphics card. It has a PCI-e SSD. The price is r…

I use the XPS 15 in an office with only mac users and this machine is just more powerful since Apple wont update the Macbook Pro line with developers in mind. I hated working on an under performing laptop when I was using the macs.

The specs would agree with you, but my real life side-by-side experience only demonstrates that the XPS is better for gaming. For everything else, my old rMBP is as fast or faster.

And my Mac runs for weeks, sometimes > 2 months, without a reboot. I've had to reboot the XPS on average twice a week (due to crashes, or updates, or really weird performance drops).

Re: Dell XPS 15 9560 Review

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Post by sp0ck »

This laptop looks like mixed bag of opinions. I'm looking something to switch from rMPB 2013 (need more RAM, storage). That laptop i still on my list but on last position. I had rMBP2016 for 3 months and I could't write on that keyboard. After 1-2 hr's I felt pain in my fingers because constant contact of my nails with that keyboard. And I don't have some bear nails :) Sold it and now my short list is 1. Lenovo X1 carbon WQHD - best keyboard I ever written. 2. XPS 13 (coil whine, spongy keyboard) 3. XPS 15 - problems described in many places .. Still can't make decision :/

Re: Dell XPS 15 9560 Review

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Post by highace »

sundvor wrote: post #46
highace wrote: post #28

As a developer I can't imagine buying anything other than a Macbook Pro, and I mainly use Windows. The build quality is top of the line, the drivers are solid, and everything just works. The trackpad is industry leading, and the keyboard is great too. Performance is exceptional, especially in the 15" which comes with a HQ processor (not ultrabook-grade) and a discrete graphics card. It has a PCI-e SSD. The price is r…

You just described the XPS 15 9560... Except the Dell gets a mostly proper keyboard with real function keys (this matters greatly to me as a programmer). It's not ThinkPad grade, yet close. (I've tested my colleague's top spec model). As for Apple, it's a shame they don't ship 32gb laptops with touch screens. I'm currently on an ageing OG X1 Carbon (i7/8/256), which has a sensational keyboard and track pointer, with…

I completely agree about the function keys. That's the only reason I haven't upgraded my 2015 Macbook pro.

Re: Dell XPS 15 9560 Review

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Post by blunte »

sundvor wrote: post #46
highace wrote: post #28

As a developer I can't imagine buying anything other than a Macbook Pro, and I mainly use Windows. The build quality is top of the line, the drivers are solid, and everything just works. The trackpad is industry leading, and the keyboard is great too. Performance is exceptional, especially in the 15" which comes with a HQ processor (not ultrabook-grade) and a discrete graphics card. It has a PCI-e SSD. The price is r…

You just described the XPS 15 9560... Except the Dell gets a mostly proper keyboard with real function keys (this matters greatly to me as a programmer). It's not ThinkPad grade, yet close. (I've tested my colleague's top spec model). As for Apple, it's a shame they don't ship 32gb laptops with touch screens. I'm currently on an ageing OG X1 Carbon (i7/8/256), which has a sensational keyboard and track pointer, with…

In my experience with this new XPS 15 9560, the touch screen is only marginally useful. It doesn't seem to play well with screen pens, so it's just a thing to smudge your finger grease on if you want to show off.

Re: Dell XPS 15 9560 Review

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Post by clvx »

eliaspro wrote: post #37
clvx wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have the xps13 2016 dev edition too, and it's a solid laptop. Let me ask you which dongle do you use to connect to external hdmi monitors? I got this one[1] a while ago, but it doesn't output more than 800x600. I use the wd15 at home without issues, but it's not suitable for traveling. [1] https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Adapter-Type-Ethernet-470-ABQN/d...

This should be fixed in 4.12. See also: https://plus.google.com/+ThorstenLeemhuis/posts/fZLWWPJEQts

Finally.. I'll give it another chance.

Re: Dell XPS 15 9560 Review

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Post by SideburnsOfDoom »

Is the webcam back at the top of the screen, or is it still at the bottom-left "I can see right up your nose" position.

edit Yep, on page 2:

> The smaller bezels really do reduce the bulk of the notebook, with the one downside in Dell’s case of a poorly positioned webcam at the bottom of the display. Dell wants to keep the top and side bezels the same size for aesthetics, and heavy webcam users will not appreciate this, with a less than flattering up-the-nose result.

Re: Dell XPS 15 9560 Review

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Post by cm2187 »

sp0ck wrote: post #53

This laptop looks like mixed bag of opinions. I'm looking something to switch from rMPB 2013 (need more RAM, storage). That laptop i still on my list but on last position. I had rMBP2016 for 3 months and I could't write on that keyboard. After 1-2 hr's I felt pain in my fingers because constant contact of my nails with that keyboard. And I don't have some bear nails :) Sold it and now my short list is 1. Lenovo X1 ca…

I suggest the lattitude E7470 or E7480 (if you don't see a laptop as a fashion statement). Light, practical, enough ports (the E7470 has a full Ethernet port) and a boring keyboard (which is what I expect from a keyboard).

Re: Dell XPS 15 9560 Review

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Post by porkbelly »

highace wrote: post #28

As a developer I can't imagine buying anything other than a Macbook Pro, and I mainly use Windows. The build quality is top of the line, the drivers are solid, and everything just works. The trackpad is industry leading, and the keyboard is great too. Performance is exceptional, especially in the 15" which comes with a HQ processor (not ultrabook-grade) and a discrete graphics card. It has a PCI-e SSD. The price is r…

Doesn't it bother you to be led around by the nose like that?

Apple refuses to open up their dev space, like the worst kind of community citizen, and your response is to support that behaviour?

Re: Dell XPS 15 9560 Review

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Post by stuff4ben »

blunte wrote: post #49

My experience with my 1-month-old maxed out 9560: - less precise trackpad than my 3 year old rMBP - palm-sensitive trackpad - failure that politely states that I need to reboot (if I try to use fingerprint reader to login too quickly after opening the laptop) - unplanned reboots due to updates - laggy and choppy video on a single external 4k monitor (compared to no apparent lag when the old rMBP drives 2x 4k monitors…

> Too bad Apple no longer caters to my crowd

What is "your crowd"? Only thing I wish my rMBP had was more than 16GB of RAM for some of the dev I do. Other than that, I can't see switching anytime soon.

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