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Mathematicians Bridge Finite-Infinite Divide

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Re: Mathematicians Bridge Finite-Infinite Divide

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There is no such thing as Infinite outside your heads. This is actually a pattern - a false dichotomy with a pure abstraction produced as an abstract opposite or an abstract result of negation of some other concept or a named entity. Applied Hegelian nonsense if you wish. Infinity is a pure abstraction, like zero, but ill-defined (zero is an symbol for a concept of an empty slot, absence or nothing, while infinite is…

Infinity has been well defined mathematically. Infinity well defined in calculus, set theory and logic. For mathematical object to 'exist' only thing required is logical consistency under the rules used. Mathematical objects don't have other substance or existence than relations to other mathematical objects. Ontological claim that abstract things that "don't exist" by some ontological definition is fine, but it does…

> For mathematical object to 'exist' only thing required is logical consistency under the rules used.

This is precisely the rule which establish existence of gods, accelerating time, higher dimensions, and other mental UFOs.

Disconnected from reality (from what is) abstract, seemingly consistent logic is what supports all the chimeras.

Read some Indian or Tibetan tantras, look at some mandalas - everything is logically consisted according to a particular sectarian logic.

Re: Mathematicians Bridge Finite-Infinite Divide

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Infinity has been well defined mathematically. Infinity well defined in calculus, set theory and logic. For mathematical object to 'exist' only thing required is logical consistency under the rules used. Mathematical objects don't have other substance or existence than relations to other mathematical objects. Ontological claim that abstract things that "don't exist" by some ontological definition is fine, but it does…

> For mathematical object to 'exist' only thing required is logical consistency under the rules used. This is precisely the rule which establish existence of gods, accelerating time, higher dimensions, and other mental UFOs. Disconnected from reality (from what is) abstract, seemingly consistent logic is what supports all the chimeras. Read some Indian or Tibetan tantras, look at some mandalas - everything is logical…

> This is precisely the rule which establish existence of gods

Can you provide a reference to that?

> Read some Indian or Tibetan tantras, look at some mandalas - everything is logically consisted according to a particular sectarian logic.

So? "sectarian logic" isn't mathematical logic.

Re: Mathematicians Bridge Finite-Infinite Divide

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> For mathematical object to 'exist' only thing required is logical consistency under the rules used. This is precisely the rule which establish existence of gods, accelerating time, higher dimensions, and other mental UFOs. Disconnected from reality (from what is) abstract, seemingly consistent logic is what supports all the chimeras. Read some Indian or Tibetan tantras, look at some mandalas - everything is logical…

> This is precisely the rule which establish existence of gods Can you provide a reference to that? > Read some Indian or Tibetan tantras, look at some mandalas - everything is logically consisted according to a particular sectarian logic. So? "sectarian logic" isn't mathematical logic.

But some mathematical logic is indeed sectarian.

Re: Mathematicians Bridge Finite-Infinite Divide

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> This is precisely the rule which establish existence of gods Can you provide a reference to that? > Read some Indian or Tibetan tantras, look at some mandalas - everything is logically consisted according to a particular sectarian logic. So? "sectarian logic" isn't mathematical logic.

But some mathematical logic is indeed sectarian.

Can you give an example?

Also, Just to clarify: Is the specific logic wrt mathematical infinity (limits etc) also used to "establish existence of gods"?

Re: Mathematicians Bridge Finite-Infinite Divide

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

But some mathematical logic is indeed sectarian.

Can you give an example? Also, Just to clarify: Is the specific logic wrt mathematical infinity (limits etc) also used to "establish existence of gods"?

Bridging of Finite-Infinite Divide

Re: Mathematicians Bridge Finite-Infinite Divide

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you give an example? Also, Just to clarify: Is the specific logic wrt mathematical infinity (limits etc) also used to "establish existence of gods"?

Bridging of Finite-Infinite Divide

What does that mean? Show me a specific example, not just a vague description.

If you mean this article, please quote the part that does that.

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