Drawdown: The most comprehensive plan ever proposed to reverse Global Warming

I think the most interesting way to sort this data is not by "total atmospheric reduction" but rather by "savings". I.e., where do the economic and ecological incentives align?

EVs and Wind & Solar are unsurprising gold/silver/bronze winners.

District Heating is an interesting idea I had never thought of. And it synthesizes well with other top winners outside of the energy production space, most of which boil down to "improved density and less moving around".

IMO these are all big wins from a lifestyle perspective as well, all other things equal (of course, not all other things are equal in most places -- schooling, safety, etc.)

Re: Drawdown: The most comprehensive plan ever proposed to reverse Global Warming

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Post by stephengillie » Sat, Jul 29, 2017, 10:41 PM UTC

malchow wrote: post #6

fleevy wrote: post #4

Do people really still unironically believe in global warming? I mean how gullible can you possibly be.

What do you mean? The planet is burning to a crisp. As predicted: – Mt. Kilimanjaro no longer has snow – As CO2 emissions keep rising, global temperatures keep rising, too, without any weird ten-year pauses at all – Intense storm incidence has increased – The Arctic has become ice-free – Polar bears are now extinct

New cross-polar shipping routes are being explored for the first time in our history, drastically shortening the distance which boats travel between China and Europe.

Re: Drawdown: The most comprehensive plan ever proposed to reverse Global Warming

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Post by dagss » Sat, Jul 29, 2017, 10:42 PM UTC

fleevy wrote: post #4

Do people really still unironically believe in global warming? I mean how gullible can you possibly be.

I am curious: Can you define a set of measurements and a year which, hypothetically, if measured, would convince you that global warming is happening?

I.e., if we were to make a bet that both you and an IPCC-groupie like me would be convinced of winning, what would that bet look like?

Or would any measurement that shows warming by definition come from a conspiracy?

Re: Drawdown: The most comprehensive plan ever proposed to reverse Global Warming

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Post by nostromo » Sat, Jul 29, 2017, 10:44 PM UTC

I hear often that educating girls will curb population growth in poor countries.

Has anyone actually proven that this is a causative relationship and not correlative?