Live data from Hacker News

Apple Removes Apps from China Store That Help Internet Users Evade Censorship

nytimes.com

1–10 of 449 posts

Re: Apple Removes Apps from China Store That Help Internet Users Evade Censorship

#2
What happens in China now could happen in 5 years in the rest of the world.

For "security" reasons or "fight agains terrorism", while it's really a fight between those in power and those who want power :-(

The need for IPFS, webRTC and other non-centralized protocols becomes more pressing every day, to defend everyone who is stuck in between.

Re: Apple Removes Apps from China Store That Help Internet Users Evade Censorship

#3

What happens in China now could happen in 5 years in the rest of the world. For "security" reasons or "fight agains terrorism", while it's really a fight between those in power and those who want power :-( The need for IPFS, webRTC and other non-centralized protocols becomes more pressing every day, to defend everyone who is stuck in between.

It should be noted that using a non-china based iTunes account still allows you to install vpn apps and run the app inside Chinese borders...

But The Great Firewall could and sometimes does already block all VPN traffic so it would not be any use.

Re: Apple Removes Apps from China Store That Help Internet Users Evade Censorship

#5

What happens in China now could happen in 5 years in the rest of the world. For "security" reasons or "fight agains terrorism", while it's really a fight between those in power and those who want power :-( The need for IPFS, webRTC and other non-centralized protocols becomes more pressing every day, to defend everyone who is stuck in between.

I'm a massive fan of decentralization and it seems that bittorrent has shown that it is resilient against oppression, while the magnet link hosting sites are regularly taken down, the protocol its self has shown that it can continue to thrive.

In this way it shows that decentralized networks are the way to circumvent oppressive people.

The on-going movement towards decentralisation is something to celebrate as is the transformation of users, slowly becoming peers.

Re: Apple Removes Apps from China Store That Help Internet Users Evade Censorship

#6

Hey Timmy, what was all that talk about customer security? https://www.apple.com/customer-letter/ And here I was, almost believing you.

This is arguably worse than if they had done nothing at all to supposedly protect user privacy. Now it's clear that Apple was just playing the crowd to win sales.

Why should we even believe that they aren't covertly cooperating with the FBI?

Re: Apple Removes Apps from China Store That Help Internet Users Evade Censorship

#7

What happens in China now could happen in 5 years in the rest of the world. For "security" reasons or "fight agains terrorism", while it's really a fight between those in power and those who want power :-( The need for IPFS, webRTC and other non-centralized protocols becomes more pressing every day, to defend everyone who is stuck in between.

Looks like I won't be owning any Apple products in 5 years then.

Re: Apple Removes Apps from China Store That Help Internet Users Evade Censorship

#8

What happens in China now could happen in 5 years in the rest of the world. For "security" reasons or "fight agains terrorism", while it's really a fight between those in power and those who want power :-( The need for IPFS, webRTC and other non-centralized protocols becomes more pressing every day, to defend everyone who is stuck in between.

Governments can outlaw those too. We need a p2p internet before it's too late. It doesn't have to be the fastest or the best. It just has to work well enough to bootstrap free access to information whenever the government tries to snuff it out. In Cuba they use thumb drives but we can do better.

Re: Apple Removes Apps from China Store That Help Internet Users Evade Censorship

#9

What happens in China now could happen in 5 years in the rest of the world. For "security" reasons or "fight agains terrorism", while it's really a fight between those in power and those who want power :-( The need for IPFS, webRTC and other non-centralized protocols becomes more pressing every day, to defend everyone who is stuck in between.

Well maybe you shouldn't use a locked system then. There are enough and better alternatives and always have been.

It's not like this is a surprise at all. People have warned about this for years but the fan base and the cool design were stronger. I'm pretty sure there will be no uprising in the western Apple community about that at all.

Re: Apple Removes Apps from China Store That Help Internet Users Evade Censorship

#10
post #6

Hey Timmy, what was all that talk about customer security? https://www.apple.com/customer-letter/ And here I was, almost believing you.

This is arguably worse than if they had done nothing at all to supposedly protect user privacy. Now it's clear that Apple was just playing the crowd to win sales. Why should we even believe that they aren't covertly cooperating with the FBI?

[deleted]
Post reply on HN