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Re: How a Reddit forum has become a lifeline to opioid addicts in the US

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Post by eregorn »

Karunamon wrote: post #383
eregorn wrote: post #359

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a third exception: being on mobile reddit. Admittedly, while the average user in general is more likely on a phone than a desktop nowadays, I don't know if the average The_Donald user is. I very much would doubt it, but I'll let it stand and stand by my admission I wasn't in the greatest position to post a link. So instead, How about +4614? https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/6o7qas/reminder_12_of_th... Whil…

Apparently deleted - your link goes to a 404.

I think I dun goofed writing it:

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/6o7qas/reminder...

Re: How a Reddit forum has become a lifeline to opioid addicts in the US

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Post by Karunamon »

eregorn wrote: post #391
Karunamon wrote: post #383

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apparently deleted - your link goes to a 404.

I think I dun goofed writing it: https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/6o7qas/reminder...

The claim in the headline there is "half of the Muslim world", not "half of the middle east" as you commented.

Deeper in the thread there's a link to https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2015/07/17/half-of-worlds-m... with some statistics as well as spitballing at a cause (Koran is okay with cousin marriage would seem to be a big one) - and if you're having babies with your cousin, that is objectively inbreeding.

At best, this is arguably a statement of fact, and not "bigoted" or "hateful". Neither is a general sentiment that Islam is negative or hateful.

Re: How a Reddit forum has become a lifeline to opioid addicts in the US

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Post by rmetzler »

VonGuard wrote: post #322

I am almost ashamed to admit I have read these forums for years as a sort of exercise in voyeuristic schadenfreude. I just love reading about drug culture, watching drug movies, etc. Just like I love gangster movies. I can't explain it. A few things I have learned: /r/glassine is probably the most interesting. They rate heroin bags in the Pittsburg area. It's supposed to be for everywhere, but it's mostly Pennsylvani…

r/trees often has stories about people getting clean from heroin and opiates by smoking cannabis. One example is this story, but you should be able to find many more: https://www.reddit.com/r/trees/comments/6oq6pp/clean_from_he...

Re: How a Reddit forum has become a lifeline to opioid addicts in the US

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Post by bduerst »

cookiecaper wrote: post #314
bduerst wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep, I agree. The users that infiltrate other subs don't announce they're from the_donald, but their rhetoric is still the same. Someone wrote a script that would res tag the_donald posters in other subs, and it's very noticeable how they're the ones derailing discussions that just involve a keyword like immigration, Islam, Europe, race, healthcare, or other hot button issues for them.

Are they derailing the discussion, or simply offering a different perspective? Like it or not, Trump won, so there is obviously a large quantity of people who subscribe to the positions you've labeled "hateful". Why should your interpretation of their opinion override their ability to share their thoughts on the topic? Subreddit mods have the ability to constrain the discussion within their own parameters. What else…

Derailing a discussion is the same anti-patterns as using fallacious arguments when it comes to "offering a different perspective."

Some notable ways they derail discussions are:

- Oppression Olympics: Saying the U.S. meddles with other countries' elections so it's not so bad that Russia meddled in the 2016 election. "Happens to everybody."

- Whataboutism: Deflecting or changing the subject to be about Hillary Clinton or President Obama.

- Oversensitivity: "They're just memes, lighten up snowflake." "Nobody takes this seriously haha."

As for res tagging, it's extremely apparent that their patterns of behavior they exhibit are fairly uniform. This is probably a side effect of the strict way with which mods of the subreddit ban anyone who doesn't conform to a certain mindset. It creates a strong signal about users who aren't interested in genuine discussion, but are incredibly biased and self serving.

Re: How a Reddit forum has become a lifeline to opioid addicts in the US

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Post by eregorn »

Karunamon wrote: post #392
eregorn wrote: post #391

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think I dun goofed writing it: https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/6o7qas/reminder...

The claim in the headline there is "half of the Muslim world", not "half of the middle east" as you commented. Deeper in the thread there's a link to https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2015/07/17/half-of-worlds-m... with some statistics as well as spitballing at a cause (Koran is okay with cousin marriage would seem to be a big one) - and if you're having babies with your cousin, that is objectively inbreeding. At best…

That's not true at all, the thread title very much says Arab not muslim. That is specifically a term for the middle-east. Also, that article seems to pull the numbers out of its ass without any proof. I'll stick with the actual numbers I posted, which means it is not a statement of fact. It is an exaggeration at the expense of Arabs.

Which is basically where your argument falls apart for BOTH links I posted. Because that's how The_Donald gets away with bigotry: it posts vague "factoids" that overblow a situation to let users make the desired conclusion but create plausible deniability once the users start posting them. You know it wasn't that long after before someone posted something like this: https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/6p7do4/hard_fac...

Turns out, when your sub is constantly suggesting a whole demographic of people are retarded without literally saying it, the users eventually make the connection and start believing it. Ironically that may be breaking down soon when such a ridiculous post like that managed +710, probably due to recent events causing desperation. (Also before you say "buts that's only Somalis!" OP was kind enough to elaborate in the comments that he's talking about Arabian immigrants too).

Either way last post, feel free to have last comment. This thread is probably dead now and now I can definitely tell you're not honest. This conversation is basically pointless.

Re: How a Reddit forum has become a lifeline to opioid addicts in the US

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