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Re: Bollinger B1: An electric truck with 360HP and up to 200 mile range

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Post by chrissnell »

Animats wrote: post #192
GreyTheory wrote: post #12

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Looks more like its inspired by the Land Rover Defender 90 to me. I don't really see the resemblance to a Bronco.

1966-1977 Ford Bronco.[1] The Defender was a lighter vehicle, closer to a Jeep Wrangler. Both came with roll cages. The Bollinger lacks that, and has a flimsy cab. It needs a roll cage. [1] http://www.broncoparts4u.com/

No, the Defender didn't come with a roll cage, at least not most of them. The American-spec versions that were imported for three years in the 90's had factory-supplied Safety Devices cages but most rest-of-world (ROW) Defenders did not.

Source: I am the co-founder of NAS-ROW, the Defender forum. https://nas-row.com

Re: Bollinger B1: An electric truck with 360HP and up to 200 mile range

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Post by chrissnell »

Keeblo wrote: post #247
cmrdporcupine wrote: post #238

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Pretty sad for something called a "Land Rover." Re: what you said about wagons, I think the Subaru Outback is actually the most practical ICE vehicle out there. Pretty high clearance, very powerful engine, great towing capacity, good roof rack options, ample trunk space, and low centre of gravity. I just wish they made one with an electric motor and a plug.

I think that you're confusing "Land Rover" and "Land Cruiser". Land Rover vehicles are made by Jaguar Land Rover. The term "Land Rover" usually refers to either the Land Rover Defender (a bulky, tractor-looking SUV that isn't legal in the USA* due to a lack of safety features and emissions controls) or a variety of luxury SUVs that are remarkably good off-road but suffer from questionable reliability. Land Cruisers a…

Defenders aren't legal in the USA? I have been a scofflaw for the last ten years?

Sorry, you're totally wrong about that. Rest-of-world (ROW) Defenders are absolutely legal in the US, as are any vehicle > 25 years old with original spec motor. Also legal are North American Spec (NAS) Defenders, which were imported for three years in the 90s.

Source: I am the co-founder of NAS-ROW, the Defender forum. https://nas-row.com

Re: Bollinger B1: An electric truck with 360HP and up to 200 mile range

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Post by jsmthrowaway »

dsfyu404ed wrote: post #117
robotbikes wrote: post #9

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The most amazing thing is the photo of the lumber where a hole underneath the dash is revealed allowing the hauling of lumber the entire length of the vehicle. That is an impressive amount of utility right there. Whether quirky features like that would survive the process towards production remain to be seen, but this is certainly an interesting take on a truck that could be very useful in rural America.

Being able to utilize existing liquid fuel infrastructure is much more useful in rural America.

In a farm/preserve/etc scenario with a big diesel tank for the implements, a large diesel genset to recharge the EVs might be workable and leverage that infrastructure. Fleets of these could probably be charged off a fixed genset (not datacenter scale, but up there), which might be useful in remote scenarios or where it is tough to deliver a lot of mains electricity. I don’t know how emissions would work out (is a genset better than multiple portable engines?) and it’d be obviously less efficient than just doing the combustion in the vehicles, but it is something that came to mind when you mentioned that which might be useful for this type of vehicle.

Even if it’s a little worse in terms of the math, electric utility vehicles are strongly appealing due to their torque characteristics and fewer parts which always seem to be the ones you forgot spares of and such. With passenger sedans you’re playing the efficiency game, but with off-road, utility, industrial, and so on, there is more to think about when considering EV. Might not be that weird. (I’m a Wrangler owner who reads about electric conversions constantly — look at South Korean work on Jeeps — and I completely get where Bollinger is coming from.)

Re: Bollinger B1: An electric truck with 360HP and up to 200 mile range

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Post by PhantomGremlin »

cmrdporcupine wrote: post #237
olyjohn wrote: post #224

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I have an 8 foot utility trailer that I tow with my Honda Fit. I overloaded it once on accident with 2500lbs of roofing materials. The capacity is 2000lbs. I frequently load it up with long and heavy stuff, and I don't risk ruining my interior. It does 95% of what most people do with a truck, but I can still drive to work on Monday or take it on a long road trip and get 35mpg. Started with a $300 Harbor Freight trail…

Just don't tell the service people if your car is still under warranty -- most North American non-truck vehicles are not rated for towing _at all_ even when their European counterparts are. This includes most so-called "crossovers" and small SUVs. Something as big as a Chevy Equinox (which is larger than the Isuzu Trooper we had in the 80s, which my family thought was massive for the time) is not rated for towing unt…

most North American non-truck vehicles are not rated for towing _at all_

Not just that, but his $300 trailer probably doesn't have brakes. It's lunacy to tow 2500 unbraked pounds behind a Honda Fit.

Re: Bollinger B1: An electric truck with 360HP and up to 200 mile range

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Post by [deleted] »

cr0sh wrote: post #196
manigandham wrote: post #111

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Do you realize that it's your face that crashes into the airbag? It doesn't launch into you. Also your car's engine is a series of constant explosions connected to a giant tank of gas.

> It doesn't launch into you. Depends on the manufacturer of the airbags...so YMMV. /I'm looking at you, Takata...

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Re: Bollinger B1: An electric truck with 360HP and up to 200 mile range

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Post by teekert »

PhantomGremlin wrote: post #255
cmrdporcupine wrote: post #237

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Just don't tell the service people if your car is still under warranty -- most North American non-truck vehicles are not rated for towing _at all_ even when their European counterparts are. This includes most so-called "crossovers" and small SUVs. Something as big as a Chevy Equinox (which is larger than the Isuzu Trooper we had in the 80s, which my family thought was massive for the time) is not rated for towing unt…

most North American non-truck vehicles are not rated for towing _at all_ Not just that, but his $300 trailer probably doesn't have brakes. It's lunacy to tow 2500 unbraked pounds behind a Honda Fit.

Any idea as to why is this different from the EU? My 2006 Ford Focus C-max van pull up to 1200 kg (= 2650 pound, braked, 665 kg unbraked) legally here.

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Post by rebootthesystem »

dsfyu404ed wrote: post #220
masklinn wrote: post #159

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> and head restraints. What do you think an airbag's purpose is?

to cushion hit you hard if your unrestrained head happens to get close to the steering wheel but not as hard as the steering wheel itself would hit you. Google "HANS device". That's a restraint.

They control deceleration.

Re: Bollinger B1: An electric truck with 360HP and up to 200 mile range

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Post by rebootthesystem »

lostlogin wrote: post #189
rebootthesystem wrote: post #150

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You missed my point: Speed does not kill. Going off track at 120 MPH was not fun. Dirt, rocks, slashed two tires. Beyond that it was uneventful. The speed just makes it last longer and probably contributed to the huge holes on the tires. You can have a crash on the highway at 100 MPH and have it be just an uneventful other than a crunched-up car. It's a function of the delta in speed AND the delta in acceleration, an…

Its hard to argue against the logic that people travelling slower would reduce injury and harm. It's sure annoying to crawl along slowly, but it's also pretty hard to hurt yourself doing it.

Well, there's a limit, right? The point of a highway is to move people from point A to point B as quickly and safely as possible. In other words, we need to optimize for both. If we optimize only for safety we'd crawl at 5 mph.

Re: Bollinger B1: An electric truck with 360HP and up to 200 mile range

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Post by rebootthesystem »

dsfyu404ed wrote: post #242
rebootthesystem wrote: post #150

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You missed my point: Speed does not kill. Going off track at 120 MPH was not fun. Dirt, rocks, slashed two tires. Beyond that it was uneventful. The speed just makes it last longer and probably contributed to the huge holes on the tires. You can have a crash on the highway at 100 MPH and have it be just an uneventful other than a crunched-up car. It's a function of the delta in speed AND the delta in acceleration, an…

>You missed my point: Speed does not kill. No, we're agreeing on that. I'm saying that most of the benefit in a typical racing situation comes from seats and restraints. Look at some of the wrecks from the cup series race last weekend at Indianapolis. They're not walking away because the wreck took a long time. They're walking away because they weren't bouncing around inside. The human body can survive plenty of G fo…

Of course, restraints let the structure around you disintegrate without you being part of the spectacle.

Yet it is true that airbags have probably saved millions of lives as well as untold people from painful, expensive and life changing injuries.

There is no way I would buy a car without airbags. This is one reason I am not into vintage or collectible cars, they are simply not safe and I do not care to drive them.

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