was expecting a semi truck
Bollinger B1: An electric truck with 360HP and up to 200 mile range
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#142I know it's a prototype, but I wonder how much thought was put into safety. The simplistic look makes you think there's probably no crumple zones. And there's clearly no driver's airbag, dashboard padding, etc. Edit: The style seems heavily inspired by the original Ford Bronco. They even support the removable rear top. http://classicfordbroncos.com/builds/
I wonder if they are targeting this for developing markets where safety is not a major concern.
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#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's cool but it's kind of a gimmick. You can easily haul lumber on almost any vehicle with a roof rack. Many cars with fold down rear seats can fit 8' lumber too.
Yeah, but now with a roof rack and this thing you can haul twice as much! or perhaps just slightly more than you could otherwise
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#144I've been looking at buying an electric car recently and was surprised that the list of electic SUVs is really small. There's basically the Model X and not all that much more. The Rav4 got discontinued. It seems to me that this is a huge market opportunity. The technology is right on the cusp of being very practical in terms of range. Soccer moms who commute to the grocery store and occasionally go on a trip to the m…
> Not quite sure why the car manufacturers aren't building these things. Because consumers aren't buying these things. The only people who seem to be buying full electric vehicles are electric vehicle enthusiasts, meaning it is a niche. Most enthusiasts will just buy a Tesla if there is a Tesla at the price bracket they're looking at, since Tesla is the most exciting brand in electric by far. For everyone else, full…
I would have assumed the same even a couple months ago. The idea of buying an electric car never even crossed my mind. Now, at least in my case, after running the numbers its a no-brainer.
A car like the Fiat 500e, Chevy Bolt, Nissan Leaf etc. can be leased for $100-$200/mo. These cars all effectively get 100+ mpg. So, any difference in the lease cost is made up for in 1 or 2 tanks of gas.
There are still tons of incentives as well. In a couple years, there will be little functional difference between electric and gas cars for 99.9% of use cases. I think in 10 years, new sales of electric cars will exceed gas cars.
Re: Bollinger B1: An electric truck with 360HP and up to 200 mile range
#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
In a few European countries (e.g. Germany, Austria, Switzerland) you pay a yearly tax for each car that you own that is meant to fund road maintenance/development. This is about 350 USD in Germany. At some other countries (e.g. Portugal, Italy, France), they have tolls for the highways so only the cars crossing that road pay for the cost. And a new option is automatic tolls, where you don't even stop. They just take…
In Florida we have a huge toll system with the majority of it under an RFID like 'pass' you stick under your window. Tolls are ran by the state, largely on busy state roads in larger metro areas. I'm a pretty big fan, largely because it contributes to our lack of a state income tax.
My mind immediately went to the privacy implications of that. But then, you are in public on a public road so maybe tracking cars isn't such a big deal.
Re: Bollinger B1: An electric truck with 360HP and up to 200 mile range
#146It had better be a lot cheaper than an F150. Nobody who wants a truck for truck stuff is gonna put up with the downsides of electric and the NVH of a 60s panel van and 200mi range unless it costs much less than vehicles with equivalent performance. The people who buy electric to make a statement about their preference in power sources are not the people who will buy a bare-bones truck.
>The people who buy electric to make a statement about their preference in power sources are not the people who will buy a bare-bones truck.
I think you could have made the same statement about luxury vehicles before the Model S. Electric provides such a game changing increase in performance that people wont care about the downsides as much, so long as you can make it sexy.
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#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not the OP, but one justification is that they aren't consuming gasoline and taxes on gasoline are primarily how roads are paid for. I wouldn't go as far as the OP, but instead I would hope the government finds some way to tax electric vehicles equitably or change how road funding works.
In a few European countries (e.g. Germany, Austria, Switzerland) you pay a yearly tax for each car that you own that is meant to fund road maintenance/development. This is about 350 USD in Germany. At some other countries (e.g. Portugal, Italy, France), they have tolls for the highways so only the cars crossing that road pay for the cost. And a new option is automatic tolls, where you don't even stop. They just take…
In the US, everyone of these options is used in various ways. You have to take into account though that some of this is done by the individual states, some is Federal, and some is local or even public/private partnerships. There is no single countrywide solution that can solve something like highway maintenance on a country the size of the US.
Re: Bollinger B1: An electric truck with 360HP and up to 200 mile range
#148I know it's a prototype, but I wonder how much thought was put into safety. The simplistic look makes you think there's probably no crumple zones. And there's clearly no driver's airbag, dashboard padding, etc. Edit: The style seems heavily inspired by the original Ford Bronco. They even support the removable rear top. http://classicfordbroncos.com/builds/
Well, a cynical person would note that, in deciding to call it a truck, they no longer have to worry about such restrictions.
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#149Earlier quoted context omitted.
Minority view: I dislike airbags. If it were legal - which it is not where I live - I would have them out of my car today. The rest of you are welcome to the damned things and the undoubtedly enhanced security they provide. Me, I shall never be thoroughly comfortable with a giant armed boxing glove pointed at my head. [Edit: typo]
You seem to acknowledge that they increase safety, so why would you remove them? Are you that willing to let your emotions overpower your logic?
Actually, I said security, not safety. They are not quite the same. But yes, I certainly do not always discount emotive decisions. None of us do.
I always drive with a certain slight feeling of unease because of that explosively triggerable thing in front of me. I'd rather not. In no way do I wish to stop anybody else from having these devices in their vehicles - I just wish I weren't forced into having them myself.
For the record, I don't like the forced use of seatbelts either, even though personally, I wouldn't dream of ever driving one meter without them.
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#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is simply not true. What causes damage and hurts or kills is rapid deceleration, not speed. Sure, speed is a necessary component in order to achieve the most violent deceleration but speed alone does guarantee damage at all. The racing world proves this conclusively. Watch Formula 1 or NASCAR and you'll see 200 mph crashes where everyone walks away. Watch motorcycle racing and see guys fall of their bikes at all…
You're right but your supporting evidence is applied wrong. People survive crashes in racing regardless of speed not because the crashes typically take place over a long period of time but because they have a seat that fits them well, straps keeping them in it and heat restraints. Also, going off track is not crashing.
You missed my point: Speed does not kill.
Going off track at 120 MPH was not fun. Dirt, rocks, slashed two tires. Beyond that it was uneventful. The speed just makes it last longer and probably contributed to the huge holes on the tires.
You can have a crash on the highway at 100 MPH and have it be just an uneventful other than a crunched-up car. It's a function of the delta in speed AND the delta in acceleration, angle, forces, etc. In other words, if the car in front of you is decelerating gently vs. violently, etc. Too many permutations to list.
What you don't want is this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=No7v2ps6ukI
It doesn't even look like they are travelling fast at all.