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Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by dieterrams »

MegaButts wrote: post #215
echelon wrote: post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Atlanta is amazing. It has an extremely low cost of living, yet there are tech companies here paying SF wages. Anecdotally, my rent is $1300/mo for a 900 sqft loft directly on Atlanta's Beltline [1], and my total comp is (edit: decided to remove this since I might get doxed. I'll be happy to talk with anyone seriously considering Atlanta via email). It's also been really interesting to see Georgia rocket to the #2 lo…

> It has an extremely low cost of living, yet there are tech companies here paying SF wages. I am skeptical of this. I am early in my career, live in SF, and make north of $300k. I do not work for one of the big 4, and I know people making more than me. That's not imaginary money - it's all liquid. This isn't meant to brag. I just think a lot of people underestimate how much you can make in SF if your skills are in d…

You and the people you know are definitely outliers.

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Post by Danihan »

MegaButts wrote: post #215
echelon wrote: post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Atlanta is amazing. It has an extremely low cost of living, yet there are tech companies here paying SF wages. Anecdotally, my rent is $1300/mo for a 900 sqft loft directly on Atlanta's Beltline [1], and my total comp is (edit: decided to remove this since I might get doxed. I'll be happy to talk with anyone seriously considering Atlanta via email). It's also been really interesting to see Georgia rocket to the #2 lo…

> It has an extremely low cost of living, yet there are tech companies here paying SF wages. I am skeptical of this. I am early in my career, live in SF, and make north of $300k. I do not work for one of the big 4, and I know people making more than me. That's not imaginary money - it's all liquid. This isn't meant to brag. I just think a lot of people underestimate how much you can make in SF if your skills are in d…

What are your specialties?

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #190
wyclif wrote: post #185

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Yeah, I admit I was thinking of Amazon because of personal bias...it's the only PNW company I have any experience with.

Amazon is the perennial company in Seattle, but the Seattle's tech center has always been dominated by the empire Bill built (aka, Microsoft). Google, for example, has two campuses, a smaller one inFremont (which is Seattle), and a much larger one in Kirkland (to attract former MS employees). Ditto for Facebook.

(I just noticed Facebook is located in South Lake Union now as well...that area is getting hot!)

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by pascalxus »

ynniv wrote: post #12

I get that you work with what you have (in this case, a corpus of job postings), but a ranking that places Baltimore in the top three tech hubs fails the sniff test. CBRE has a better list here (email registration wall): https://www.cbre.com/research-and-reports/Scoring-Tech-Talen... I'm biased in that it places Atlanta unusually high, but overall it is a better, less surprising ranking: Bay Area Seattle New York Was…

I can't stop thinking about moving to Austin, Raleigh or Atlanta. The cost of housing difference is truely vast. For a typical 2K sq ft with nice backyard the difference is 3m$ vs 300K. It's like getting 2.7 million$ signing bonus! Google and facebook can't compete with that - the best facebook can muster is 100K signing bonus.

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Post by MegaButts »

Danihan wrote: post #232
MegaButts wrote: post #215

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> It has an extremely low cost of living, yet there are tech companies here paying SF wages. I am skeptical of this. I am early in my career, live in SF, and make north of $300k. I do not work for one of the big 4, and I know people making more than me. That's not imaginary money - it's all liquid. This isn't meant to brag. I just think a lot of people underestimate how much you can make in SF if your skills are in d…

What are your specialties?

I recently made the switch to management, but before that I built robots - electrical, mechanical, and software engineering. The switch didn't really bump my pay - many of the engineers I work with make more than me. It is definitely easier to command a higher salary working on the software side of robotics, although I do know a handful of people doing hardware making even more (these people are truly outliers though).

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by wenc »

tmccrmck wrote: post #228
wenc wrote: post #175

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I'm a little surprised Chicago is not on the list. The Chicago tech scene is not huge, but it is growing, and it is definitely much more dynamic than Philly or LA or San Diego. It is the third largest metro in the country with a large hinterland, so cost of living is still fairly affordable. Tales of crime are overblown by the media -- they are mostly outside the city, and normalized to population, is not significant…

I've always been confused as to why Chicago isn't more of a tech hub. Great city, great people, cheap housing, good transportation (by US standards), good schools, etc. Are the Google, Microsoft, and Amazon offices engineering offices? I know that the Microsoft one is not.

You know what, I'm not sure. I just a did a quick google, and Amazon is hiring a lot of architects and consultants but no open SDE positions. Google has SDE positions open.

A lot of the tech folks here work for financial companies.

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by Danihan »

MegaButts wrote: post #235
Danihan wrote: post #232

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are your specialties?

I recently made the switch to management, but before that I built robots - electrical, mechanical, and software engineering. The switch didn't really bump my pay - many of the engineers I work with make more than me. It is definitely easier to command a higher salary working on the software side of robotics, although I do know a handful of people doing hardware making even more (these people are truly outliers though…

What are the main toolsets in use / in demand on the software side?

I'm in the Bay Area and I'm feeling underpaid. Please tell me what to learn.

Off-topic: try a five day water fast for your migraines. You need neuronal autophagy.

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by sidlls »

MegaButts wrote: post #215
echelon wrote: post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Atlanta is amazing. It has an extremely low cost of living, yet there are tech companies here paying SF wages. Anecdotally, my rent is $1300/mo for a 900 sqft loft directly on Atlanta's Beltline [1], and my total comp is (edit: decided to remove this since I might get doxed. I'll be happy to talk with anyone seriously considering Atlanta via email). It's also been really interesting to see Georgia rocket to the #2 lo…

> It has an extremely low cost of living, yet there are tech companies here paying SF wages. I am skeptical of this. I am early in my career, live in SF, and make north of $300k. I do not work for one of the big 4, and I know people making more than me. That's not imaginary money - it's all liquid. This isn't meant to brag. I just think a lot of people underestimate how much you can make in SF if your skills are in d…

Very few engineers (as a percentage of all engineers) even in the Bay Area earn that much (base, all-in, or otherwise). Typical non-management compensation (all-in) is going to cap out ~15% or more below $300k.

I've taken several salary surveys and done plenty of research through publicly available sites (e.g. glassdoor, linked in, payscale, etc.). For what it's worth, my all-in compensation is well below $300k/year as a senior engineer and is typically reported as being on or above the very high end of average. Given the propensity to exaggerate in these surveys I expect my salary to be even farther from the average than reported.

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by burger_moon »

pascalxus wrote: post #234
ynniv wrote: post #12

I get that you work with what you have (in this case, a corpus of job postings), but a ranking that places Baltimore in the top three tech hubs fails the sniff test. CBRE has a better list here (email registration wall): https://www.cbre.com/research-and-reports/Scoring-Tech-Talen... I'm biased in that it places Atlanta unusually high, but overall it is a better, less surprising ranking: Bay Area Seattle New York Was…

I can't stop thinking about moving to Austin, Raleigh or Atlanta. The cost of housing difference is truely vast. For a typical 2K sq ft with nice backyard the difference is 3m$ vs 300K. It's like getting 2.7 million$ signing bonus! Google and facebook can't compete with that - the best facebook can muster is 100K signing bonus.

I have no idea where you live now, but the weather can be vastly different in those states than what you're used to. Atlanta weather, on top of lots of other factors did not bode well for me and I left after less than 2 years.
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