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Bollinger B1: An electric truck with 360HP and up to 200 mile range

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Re: Bollinger B1: An electric truck with 360HP and up to 200 mile range

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Post by tyingq »

tsuraan wrote: post #75
tyingq wrote: post #41

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Here's a thread on doing this with a Nissan Leaf. http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=5792 From that and similar threads on Teslas, the caveats seem to be: - Need a sine wave generator vs the cheaper square wave ones. - Some cars allow you to adjust the current draw to match lower output generators, some don't. Cheap generators probably don't output enough current. - You have to tie neutral to ground and…

> - Need a sine wave generator vs the cheaper square wave ones. That seems really weird; I'd expect that the big charging station you install in your garage would convert from home AC into some high-current DC. Batteries don't actually charge on AC, do they?

Not directly, no. But electric vehicles convert AC since that what consumers have easy access to.

And their rectifiers expect nice sine waves.

Re: Bollinger B1: An electric truck with 360HP and up to 200 mile range

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Post by gtvwill »

yellowapple wrote: post #31
flareback wrote: post #25

It's not a truck

Is there some definition of "truck" which this vehicle does not fulfill?

GVM > 4.5 ton is what makes a truck. Anything less is not a truck. 4.5 to 8 ton is light, 8 - 12 is medium, 12 ton an up is heavy for rigid trucks. That thing is a SUV.

Re: Bollinger B1: An electric truck with 360HP and up to 200 mile range

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Post by webkike »

driverdan wrote: post #67
robotbikes wrote: post #9

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The most amazing thing is the photo of the lumber where a hole underneath the dash is revealed allowing the hauling of lumber the entire length of the vehicle. That is an impressive amount of utility right there. Whether quirky features like that would survive the process towards production remain to be seen, but this is certainly an interesting take on a truck that could be very useful in rural America.

It's cool but it's kind of a gimmick. You can easily haul lumber on almost any vehicle with a roof rack. Many cars with fold down rear seats can fit 8' lumber too.

Yeah, but now with a roof rack and this thing you can haul twice as much! or perhaps just slightly more than you could otherwise

Re: Bollinger B1: An electric truck with 360HP and up to 200 mile range

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Post by mywittyname »

leoedin wrote: post #8
rhspeer wrote: post #4

This could be a nice acquisition by Jeep/Chrysler since they're lagging behind in EV development due to lack of funds. It would also help get the taste of the compass & patriot horseshit they've been peddling lately. That's some beautiful vaporware, I hope they make it.

If they're lagging in the EV department due to lack of funds, purchasing a startup like this won't change that. Bollinger probably designed almost none of the core "EV" stuff - motor drivers, motors, charging circuitry etc. They couldn't afford to. They've almost certainly bought it off the shelf from one of the many automotive OEMs. Chrysler could do the same.

It doesn't help that FCA insists on doing the bare legal-minimum wrt to EVs. Their executive team does not see any value in EVs, they are literally just a cost of doing business for FCA.

Re: Bollinger B1: An electric truck with 360HP and up to 200 mile range

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Post by burger_moon »

Leszek wrote: post #23
burger_moon wrote: post #18

Can you recharge these on a normal gas generator? Something like a Miller engine driven generator[1] could probably do it but those are $$$ for the average joe. I only ask because a lot of people trailer their rock crawlers/mudders to more remote areas to go play and have fun, but when the electricity runs dry you'll need a way to power it back up. This thing looks like it'd be a lot of fun not only for daily use but…

If you're carrying around a generator, you may as well carry around an internal combustion engine though?

Well in the case I presented the generator would stay with your rv/ or whatever you're towing this thing around with, as I explained, a lot of people use these types of vehicles in more remote areas. You don't really need the engine for going out during the day, only for recharging at the end of the day. This means a much simpler design and less weight to drag around. A generator is much easier to service and maintain that an engine attached to the vehicle.

Of course I'm talking about a small niche of customers in an already small niche of people that buy 4x4s.

Re: Bollinger B1: An electric truck with 360HP and up to 200 mile range

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Post by freehunter »

FLUX-YOU wrote: post #68
yellowapple wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there some definition of "truck" which this vehicle does not fulfill?

Longer bed, basically. It's the difference between SUV and truck. The B1 is closest to a 2 door Jeep Wrangler and those aren't trucks at all.

That's specifically a pickup truck. There are multiple kinds of trucks, and a pickup truck with a bed is only one kind of truck.

Re: Bollinger B1: An electric truck with 360HP and up to 200 mile range

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Post by freehunter »

apardoe-MSFT wrote: post #35
yellowapple wrote: post #31

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Is there some definition of "truck" which this vehicle does not fulfill?

My definition of truck: if you can't dump a ton of shit in the bed with a backhoe, it's not a truck. It's a minivan. For me, having a permanent bed cover means it's not useful as a truck.

So many people confuse "truck" with "pickup truck". A pickup is one type of truck. There are more types of trucks than just pickup trucks.

Re: Bollinger B1: An electric truck with 360HP and up to 200 mile range

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Post by burger_moon »

outside1234 wrote: post #43
bluGill wrote: post #26

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Are you talking about people buying a truck to get to their desk job, or people buying a truck to haul a load? Those are two different groups with different requirements. The first group like the tough image, but so long as it goes 100 miles round trip and you can put something in it they have their needs met and the rest is about image. This group just needs an electric car drive train. The second group actually nee…

Does the second require more than 200 miles of range between charging (honest question)?

Depends on location. If you live in west Texas or Utah or other states where long daily travel is common then yes you need a vehicle with a lot of range. Often you will see guys will external fuel tanks on their vehicles to support the distances they travel.
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