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Bollinger B1: An electric truck with 360HP and up to 200 mile range

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Re: Bollinger B1: An electric truck with 360HP and up to 200 mile range

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Post by bbarn »

interfixus wrote: post #40
masklinn wrote: post #2

Looks interesting, the front trunk and cut-down "UI" look especially great. This looks like an EV you could actually work on in your garage. Vaporware until they get a production line though, and the absence of airbag is somewhat worrying when it advertises a top speed of 127mph and 0-60 in 4.5, at a GVWR 10klbs it's outside the light truck regs (8.5klbs GVWR) and thus doesn't require them but still... Of note, the V…

Minority view: I dislike airbags. If it were legal - which it is not where I live - I would have them out of my car today. The rest of you are welcome to the damned things and the undoubtedly enhanced security they provide. Me, I shall never be thoroughly comfortable with a giant armed boxing glove pointed at my head. [Edit: typo]

I agree. They also are the reason most cars now involved in an collision where one goes off are totaled. We're a lot safer, with respect to potential fatality level crashes, but minor collisions that used to be a few hundred bucks at the body shop are now vehicle ending affairs.

Re: Bollinger B1: An electric truck with 360HP and up to 200 mile range

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Post by flamedoge »

bbarn wrote: post #51
interfixus wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Minority view: I dislike airbags. If it were legal - which it is not where I live - I would have them out of my car today. The rest of you are welcome to the damned things and the undoubtedly enhanced security they provide. Me, I shall never be thoroughly comfortable with a giant armed boxing glove pointed at my head. [Edit: typo]

I agree. They also are the reason most cars now involved in an collision where one goes off are totaled. We're a lot safer, with respect to potential fatality level crashes, but minor collisions that used to be a few hundred bucks at the body shop are now vehicle ending affairs.

why does it need to be totaled?

Re: Bollinger B1: An electric truck with 360HP and up to 200 mile range

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Post by ZeroGravitas »

ClassyJacket wrote: post #38
frabbit wrote: post #34

Hopefully these will be restricted to use on farmland instead of being inappropriately paraded in suburban areas. Electric vehicles are not "clean", they're merely cleaner.

Excuse me? What claims are you making exactly regarding electric vehicles that mean they shouldn't be allowed on public roads?

I think he's complaining about people buying ridiculously large cars for commuter use. And saying that it's still bad for the environment if it's a stupidly large and heavy EV that's being misused in this way.

Re: Bollinger B1: An electric truck with 360HP and up to 200 mile range

#56

Post by flareback »

yellowapple wrote: post #39
apardoe-MSFT wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My definition of truck: if you can't dump a ton of shit in the bed with a backhoe, it's not a truck. It's a minivan. For me, having a permanent bed cover means it's not useful as a truck.

The bed cover's not permanent, though; it's removable per the pictures in http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1111790_bollinger-b1-the-... It also has a recommended cargo weight of 6,000 pounds, so it can haul a ton (literally! and two more!) of shit. This is really no less of a truck than a Ford Bronco or Dodge Ramcharger.

also don't consider those trucks

Re: Bollinger B1: An electric truck with 360HP and up to 200 mile range

#57

Post by kuschku »

olegkikin wrote: post #11

Don't they need their own battery gigafactory to scale the production?

Why would they? Tesla has no gigafactory either (the actual battery factory and battery IP belongs to panasonic, and they can sell to whomever they wish to)

Re: Bollinger B1: An electric truck with 360HP and up to 200 mile range

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Post by javiramos »

interfixus wrote: post #40
masklinn wrote: post #2

Looks interesting, the front trunk and cut-down "UI" look especially great. This looks like an EV you could actually work on in your garage. Vaporware until they get a production line though, and the absence of airbag is somewhat worrying when it advertises a top speed of 127mph and 0-60 in 4.5, at a GVWR 10klbs it's outside the light truck regs (8.5klbs GVWR) and thus doesn't require them but still... Of note, the V…

Minority view: I dislike airbags. If it were legal - which it is not where I live - I would have them out of my car today. The rest of you are welcome to the damned things and the undoubtedly enhanced security they provide. Me, I shall never be thoroughly comfortable with a giant armed boxing glove pointed at my head. [Edit: typo]

My family had a car that was once very lightly rear-ended while stopped at a traffic light. No major marks or scuffing on the back bumper so my mom just drove away. Three months later, while driving on the highway, she drove into a pot hole that triggered the airbags. The airbags exploded (yes they explode) completely unexpectedly while driving at 70 mph. Thankfully she was not hurt but the experience definitely shook her. Apparently the airbags' trigger had been triggered halfway when the car had been rear-ended.

Re: Bollinger B1: An electric truck with 360HP and up to 200 mile range

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Post by apardoe-MSFT »

flareback wrote: post #56
yellowapple wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The bed cover's not permanent, though; it's removable per the pictures in http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1111790_bollinger-b1-the-... It also has a recommended cargo weight of 6,000 pounds, so it can haul a ton (literally! and two more!) of shit. This is really no less of a truck than a Ford Bronco or Dodge Ramcharger.

also don't consider those trucks

Thanks, I didn't look far enough to see that the bedcover is removable. Now this truck is an option for me.

Re: Bollinger B1: An electric truck with 360HP and up to 200 mile range

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Post by otterley »

flamedoge wrote: post #53
bbarn wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree. They also are the reason most cars now involved in an collision where one goes off are totaled. We're a lot safer, with respect to potential fatality level crashes, but minor collisions that used to be a few hundred bucks at the body shop are now vehicle ending affairs.

why does it need to be totaled?

"Totaled" is just a term of art in the insurance industry. It means that the cost to restore the vehicle is greater than its as-repaired street value. It doesn't mean that the vehicle has to be destroyed; it just means the insurer will only give you the fair market value of the vehicle as though you sold it used immediately before the accident, instead of paying for it to be repaired.

The problem, though, is that when an insurance company does that, it colors the title of the vehicle (e.g. "salvage title"), which makes it harder to sell and reduces its resale value.

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