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Post by liveoneggs »

throwanem wrote: post #144
frandroid wrote: post #15

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I was like, hot damn, cheap housing and good paying jobs, I'm moving to Baltimore!!

You know they censored two-thirds of The Wire because it was too gruesome and horrifying for TV? Those were the parts that accurately depicted what living in my town is like. I personally had half a leg gnawed off by rats in my first week here - and that puts me well ahead of the curve! It's a terrible and terrifying place and you'll be much better off if you stay away. (Seriously, though, hit me up via my HN profile…

you've got John Waters so you're already ahead of the game

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by throwanem »

liveoneggs wrote: post #181
throwanem wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You know they censored two-thirds of The Wire because it was too gruesome and horrifying for TV? Those were the parts that accurately depicted what living in my town is like. I personally had half a leg gnawed off by rats in my first week here - and that puts me well ahead of the curve! It's a terrible and terrifying place and you'll be much better off if you stay away. (Seriously, though, hit me up via my HN profile…

you've got John Waters so you're already ahead of the game

I mean I don't, and no wonder. But we do, sure. He's a treasure.

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by Bahamut »

bakenator wrote: post #18
40acres wrote: post #5

Can anyone speak to.the job market in the DC metro? I've been thinking a lot about moving back to the east coast and DC seems like a decent trade off between cost of living and interesting jobs (compared to my home NYC). What kind of jobs are in DC, what's the salary range like?

The majority of jobs in DC metro are government contracting as you would imagine. That is not to say there are not interesting opportunities available. A few startups and many small contracting shops filling niche spots for the Gov. IMO the cost of living in not good in DC metro. Very high home prices, only below SF, Boston, NYC. Lower salaries than SF/NYC across the board. Upper middle class in DC requires 200k inco…

It should be noted that most people don’t live in DC proper - most commute in from the suburbs. My friends in the area all bought houses in places like Fairfax, Springfield, and between Baltimore and DC. House prices are not cheap, but I’ve heard $600k for a nice house quoted to me.

DC proper is just ridiculous. Thankfully you can find more reasonable places just across the river with a short commute time.

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Post by steveadoo »

ecshafer wrote: post #30
dkhenry wrote: post #21

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I just moved from Philadelphia to DC for a job, and I am still biased towards Philadelphia. The jobs I see around here seem to be slanted towards government and non profits. The biggest problem is the absurd high cost of living, Housing prices are high for miles out of the city, and they spike along all the major forms of transportation. Unless you like sitting in traffic for hours a day you will be paying a premium…

Philly is cheap and we are getting more start ups. There are a lot of tech jobs though, but the downside (for some) is that many are in the suburbs either on the main line or in New Jersey, and I don't think that will change much until the city business problem tax is lowered.

Only thing keeping me from moving into Philly is the wage tax. I think within the next year I'm just going to bite the bullet and do it.

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Post by wyclif »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #147
wyclif wrote: post #131

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And of course, that means heavy commuting and long drives to where the tech campuses are.

What? Most of the campuses are on the east side. Unless you are working for Amazon or maybe Apple, your commute is super easy from Bellevue vs. Seattle. Coming down 405 from another can suck, however. Nothing new with east and north side schools being better than Seattle schools. It was that way in the early 90s when I was in HS.

Yeah, I admit I was thinking of Amazon because of personal bias...it's the only PNW company I have any experience with.

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Post by soyrunner »

Ologn wrote: post #7

Baltimore and Raleigh are tech hubs, and New York is not? In 2000 when the dot-com's went bust, things were not so bad for IT in New York because the other industries were still going along - media, advertising, fashion, and of course, finance. San Francisco has all its eggs in one basket. Plus New York has Stack Overflow, Spotify, Computer Associates, IBM, Seamless, Rockstar Games, Kickstarter and companies like tha…

I agree, New York. Years ago, having engineering lap experience, I looked at engineering positions offered in Newsday compared to elsewhere. I decided that at that time there was probably nowhere in the world with as many engineering jobs listed in any paper within commuting distance as there was in a typical weekday Newsday want ad section. If you work in engineering, live on LI, and travel, bring the day's Newsday and compare.

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Post by rublev »

ynniv wrote: post #12

I get that you work with what you have (in this case, a corpus of job postings), but a ranking that places Baltimore in the top three tech hubs fails the sniff test. CBRE has a better list here (email registration wall): https://www.cbre.com/research-and-reports/Scoring-Tech-Talen... I'm biased in that it places Atlanta unusually high, but overall it is a better, less surprising ranking: Bay Area Seattle New York Was…

Toronto is not a tech hub haha. We have a huge financial district and lots of "financial startups". The salaries are absolute bottom tier though. 50-60k USD at the high level.

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Post by gph »

vkjv wrote: post #133
tmaly wrote: post #22

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I was just wondering why NYC was not on that list. Baltimore is very close to DC, is it really two different regions?

Not really. They are close. There are places you can live that are a reasonable commute to both. Also, I know people that make the commute in both directions. MARC train helps. Source: I live and work in Baltimore.

And really it's hard to determine what differentiates the data between DC and Baltimore for a lot of tech jobs. The ranking calls it Baltimore-Columbia-Towson, so that probably means Fort Meade and a lot of other tech jobs that might be more 'in-between'.

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

wyclif wrote: post #185
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #147

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What? Most of the campuses are on the east side. Unless you are working for Amazon or maybe Apple, your commute is super easy from Bellevue vs. Seattle. Coming down 405 from another can suck, however. Nothing new with east and north side schools being better than Seattle schools. It was that way in the early 90s when I was in HS.

Yeah, I admit I was thinking of Amazon because of personal bias...it's the only PNW company I have any experience with.

Amazon is the perennial company in Seattle, but the Seattle's tech center has always been dominated by the empire Bill built (aka, Microsoft). Google, for example, has two campuses, a smaller one inFremont (which is Seattle), and a much larger one in Kirkland (to attract former MS employees). Ditto for Facebook.
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