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Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by kod »

rurban wrote: post #120
ynniv wrote: post #12

I get that you work with what you have (in this case, a corpus of job postings), but a ranking that places Baltimore in the top three tech hubs fails the sniff test. CBRE has a better list here (email registration wall): https://www.cbre.com/research-and-reports/Scoring-Tech-Talen... I'm biased in that it places Atlanta unusually high, but overall it is a better, less surprising ranking: Bay Area Seattle New York Was…

It also misses several key areas, like Dallas Ft.Worth which is 4th in absolute number of tech talent, before Chicago, Seattle, Atlanta, LA, Boston, Houston. With e.g. Austin only half of these numbers. With the pay stats, it's similar: E.g. Newark is #5 but does not even appear on the op's list. So those 8 hubs, are not the biggest or highest paid, only the ones which match San Jose statistically the most. It's outr…

Yeah but then you'd be living in Dallas instead of Austin...

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by jeffwass »

jldugger wrote: post #102
jeffwass wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a former Baltimore resident, what exactly makes you think Baltimore fails the sniff test? For example, Johns Hopkins University is IIRC the highest-funded research-focused university in the USA. (Edit - adding link to support above : Johns Hopkins leads U.S. universities in research spending for 37th consecutive year : https://hub.jhu.edu/2016/12/07/research-spending-hopkins-nsf... )

Isn't Johns Hopkins a medical university? Not exactly a Silicon tech hub.

A "medical university"? Strange, I wonder how I did my PhD in experimental condensed matter physics there :-)

It's a general research-focused university, like MIT. The oldest research-based university in the USA in fact.

Though you're right it's very strong in medicine and all things 'bio' including biochemistry, biophysics, bioinformatics, and biotech.

But it also has a strong astrophysics program, eg the Space Telescope Science Institute is based there.

And the JHU Applied Physics Lab is not too far away too.

But I'm not sure why you feel that med-tech and bio-tech don't contribute to a tech hub. Are you considering tech as purely web tech?

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by justadeveloper2 »

ynniv wrote: post #12

I get that you work with what you have (in this case, a corpus of job postings), but a ranking that places Baltimore in the top three tech hubs fails the sniff test. CBRE has a better list here (email registration wall): https://www.cbre.com/research-and-reports/Scoring-Tech-Talen... I'm biased in that it places Atlanta unusually high, but overall it is a better, less surprising ranking: Bay Area Seattle New York Was…

I moved to Raleigh back in '97 under the mistaken impression that it would be a major tech hub. While there are many good tech jobs there, the RTP area fell pretty far short of my expectations. Also, the dot-com crash gutted that area like a fish and I'm not sure the commercial real estate sector there has ever recovered even to this day. It was fun for a brief time in the late '90s. I moved away in '06, but went back to visit recently and now that area feels very overcrowded. I can't speak to the tech sector and how it is doing these days.

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by 5trokerac3 »

justadeveloper2 wrote: post #153
ynniv wrote: post #12

I get that you work with what you have (in this case, a corpus of job postings), but a ranking that places Baltimore in the top three tech hubs fails the sniff test. CBRE has a better list here (email registration wall): https://www.cbre.com/research-and-reports/Scoring-Tech-Talen... I'm biased in that it places Atlanta unusually high, but overall it is a better, less surprising ranking: Bay Area Seattle New York Was…

I moved to Raleigh back in '97 under the mistaken impression that it would be a major tech hub. While there are many good tech jobs there, the RTP area fell pretty far short of my expectations. Also, the dot-com crash gutted that area like a fish and I'm not sure the commercial real estate sector there has ever recovered even to this day. It was fun for a brief time in the late '90s. I moved away in '06, but went bac…

It fully recovered. I moved here in '12 from L.A. with a job that had the same pay, but the cost of living is probably close to half of California, so it was like having my salary doubled overnight. IMHO this place is a paradise for engineers who care about actual work life balance.

NC's growth has slipped in the last couple years, though, because of the HB2 nonsense. It'll be a few years before we recover our image.

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by chrshawkes »

theWatcher37 wrote: post #45
ynniv wrote: post #12

I get that you work with what you have (in this case, a corpus of job postings), but a ranking that places Baltimore in the top three tech hubs fails the sniff test. CBRE has a better list here (email registration wall): https://www.cbre.com/research-and-reports/Scoring-Tech-Talen... I'm biased in that it places Atlanta unusually high, but overall it is a better, less surprising ranking: Bay Area Seattle New York Was…

Atlanta has GT though, which is exploding with both startups and major players investing in on-sight "innovation-centric" locations. That, and there's some really cool startups in stealth mode I've yet to see mentioned here, some breaking $10m in revenue and others getting funded left and right. Atlanta is on the rise.

So is Richmond, Virginia

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by chrshawkes »

frandroid wrote: post #15
ynniv wrote: post #12

I get that you work with what you have (in this case, a corpus of job postings), but a ranking that places Baltimore in the top three tech hubs fails the sniff test. CBRE has a better list here (email registration wall): https://www.cbre.com/research-and-reports/Scoring-Tech-Talen... I'm biased in that it places Atlanta unusually high, but overall it is a better, less surprising ranking: Bay Area Seattle New York Was…

I was like, hot damn, cheap housing and good paying jobs, I'm moving to Baltimore!!

Baltimore is on pace for record murders this year. It's a great place for tech startups.

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by sputknick »

maxdemarzi wrote: post #76

Move to Round Rock folks! You can get a 4000 sq.ft. home, a half acre yard and a pool for less than a San Francisco studio. You pay $4000 a month to rent a 1 bedroom? You can rent a whole house here for half of that. Pay is the same if you just ask. Too many jobs and not enough local people to fill them.

I'm looking at that area. Currently in Seattle. Can you give me some advantage of round Rock, cedar Park or Austin? My current employers office is near The Domain in North Austin. It looks like I can get a decent house in Austin, but cedar Park and round Rock also look nice.

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by ospfer »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #119
maxdemarzi wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure it's hot and humid, thankfully everything is Air Conditioned and I'm in the pool every night. No public transportation means no public transportation that smells like urine. Since housing is so cheap everyone has nice cars.

Sounds like you'd have a lot of traffic then....

...which we do. Getting into Austin from one of the suburbs is a nightmare during rush hour and still a slow 'stop-and-go' at all other times.

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by humanrebar »

ikeyany wrote: post #107
maxdemarzi wrote: post #76

Move to Round Rock folks! You can get a 4000 sq.ft. home, a half acre yard and a pool for less than a San Francisco studio. You pay $4000 a month to rent a 1 bedroom? You can rent a whole house here for half of that. Pay is the same if you just ask. Too many jobs and not enough local people to fill them.

Texas is a hot and humid political mess. At least in Colorado, your vote won't go to waste.

I don't see how Texas is more of a political mess than CA, NY, or NJ.

Also, diversity sometimes looks like places other people love and you don't care for.

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by madcaptenor »

sb8244 wrote: post #63
theWatcher37 wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can assure you there are plenty of engineers making north of $100k in midtown

I've seen 90-140 be pretty common for mid and senior engineers in Atlanta. That's not SF prices but housing is definitely cheaper. Maybe not for too long though

I moved from SF to Atlanta three years ago. I figure that Atlanta will always be cheaper because they can just build more Atlanta if they need to, whereas San Francisco is essentially an island.
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