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There are plenty of nice school districts outside of Seattle. Bellevue, Shoreline, Northshore.... Coming from LA, I'm looking forward to cheaper housing prices when I move there next month.
>Bellevue, Shoreline, Northshore That's the issue. It's all urban flight to suburbs. I live in the inner city and see it every day.
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#132Reasons for Seattle: 1) take a long shower 2) wash your car 3) water your lawn 4) cheap electrical rates 5) enjoy the outdoors 6) awesome IPA's 7) pot is legal 8) great culture 9) moderate weather as global warming progresses downside - traffic is horrible. That is my take as a long time Seattlite.
Traffic has gotten so much worse since I first came here in 2011. The good news is that Seattle is small enough that you can walk to most places just fine, and the bus and light rail systems are fantastic.
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#133They looked at tech job listings as a percentage of ALL job listings in cities with a population over 1 million. How does that show a "tech hub"? I would bet NYC has more total tech jobs (as well as open listings) than a lot of the "tech hubs" on the list.
I was just wondering why NYC was not on that list. Baltimore is very close to DC, is it really two different regions?
Source: I live and work in Baltimore.
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As a motorcyclist, whenever I was in SEA on my motorcycle I was always dismayed that lane splitting / filtering is not legal in the state. Motorcycling is still the fastest way (for me) around SF and the Bay Area, and the lane splitting in dead stopped traffic is a large reason why I started riding in the first place.
California is the only state in the US where that is legal. I'm guessing serious traffic problems are the reason why.
Also, motorcycles aren't exactly a large block of votes. And, many lane splitting bills include helmet provisions which are a non-starter for some riders.
Source: watched as attempts failed multiple times in Texas.
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>Bellevue, Shoreline, Northshore That's the issue. It's all urban flight to suburbs. I live in the inner city and see it every day.
And of course, that means heavy commuting and long drives to where the tech campuses are.
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Atlanta is the center of tech ambitions for the southeast. It has a lot of Fortune 500 company headquarters - Turner Broadcasting with 18+ major online brands, Home Depot, Lowe's, etc. Yahoo and Google had offices. There are also a lot of small satellite consulting firms. Cost of housing is much lower, though traffic is bad as well. It's a nice green city, but Venture funding is low, so it depends on your ambitions.
I'd be very cautious about Atlanta. Outside of Google, many of the companies there are wanting to pay salaries I'd consider substantially below market (even including COLA) compared to the other hubs. That includes those fortune 500 companies (a couple of whom had internal recruiters bail when I mentioned my current salary + the COLA number). Cutting your real estate costs by $12-15k goes a long way but it doesn't ma…
Though looking at glassdoor data for Atlanta, it does look like data scientists have an average that's almost $34k lower than san francisco. So maybe I just got lucky.
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#137I get that you work with what you have (in this case, a corpus of job postings), but a ranking that places Baltimore in the top three tech hubs fails the sniff test. CBRE has a better list here (email registration wall): https://www.cbre.com/research-and-reports/Scoring-Tech-Talen... I'm biased in that it places Atlanta unusually high, but overall it is a better, less surprising ranking: Bay Area Seattle New York Was…
Think about a major employer of engineers that is just a few exits south on the Baltimore Washington Parkway.
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I'd be very cautious about Atlanta. Outside of Google, many of the companies there are wanting to pay salaries I'd consider substantially below market (even including COLA) compared to the other hubs. That includes those fortune 500 companies (a couple of whom had internal recruiters bail when I mentioned my current salary + the COLA number). Cutting your real estate costs by $12-15k goes a long way but it doesn't ma…
I had a much different experience applying for jobs as a data scientist in Atlanta - of the companies I got offers for, the base salaries + total comp were similar to what glassdoor reported for data scientists in silicon valley, albeit just a hair lower. According to the various online cost-of-living calculators, I'd have to be making about $200k in the Bay Area to be living the same lifestyle. Though looking at gla…
MIT grad, data scientist here. Again, if you are not a top data scientist, it will work fine for you. I routinely get offered $300K/year as a recent PhD grad in the Bay area. I would not get anywhere near proportional compensation in Atlanta or even Seattle.
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I'd be very cautious about Atlanta. Outside of Google, many of the companies there are wanting to pay salaries I'd consider substantially below market (even including COLA) compared to the other hubs. That includes those fortune 500 companies (a couple of whom had internal recruiters bail when I mentioned my current salary + the COLA number). Cutting your real estate costs by $12-15k goes a long way but it doesn't ma…
> I'd be very cautious about Atlanta. Outside of Google, many of the companies there are wanting to pay salaries I'd consider substantially below market (even including COLA) compared to the other hubs. If most companies are paying a certain salary, doesn't that imply that salary IS market rate? I don't think you can directly compare salaries across cities even after factoring in cost of living since it ignores the f…
Also, people overestimate the effects of cheaper housing. Yes, cheaper housing is nice but one has to remember that lots of things cost the same no matter where you live. Food, transportation, travel, and education costs are mostly static across the country. It's important to factor that in and not get dazzled by the fancy house or condo you can suddenly afford.
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Their data is obviously broken. If you look at the source, it is "Indeed", which is obviously not an unbiased sample of data. Let's pick a huge employer in Silicon Valley, Facebook, and search for jobs on Indeed. https://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=facebook&l=Menlo+Park%2C+CA Not a single Software Engineer position. And I really don't think hot San Francisco startups are using Indeed to look for talent, which is why SF fal…
Indeed is a scraper with lots of low quality inventory or as my boss ex Total Jobs director said "shit inventory". Tier one employers don't normally advertise on indeed