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Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by zengid »

dzink wrote: post #35
ynniv wrote: post #12

I get that you work with what you have (in this case, a corpus of job postings), but a ranking that places Baltimore in the top three tech hubs fails the sniff test. CBRE has a better list here (email registration wall): https://www.cbre.com/research-and-reports/Scoring-Tech-Talen... I'm biased in that it places Atlanta unusually high, but overall it is a better, less surprising ranking: Bay Area Seattle New York Was…

Atlanta is the center of tech ambitions for the southeast. It has a lot of Fortune 500 company headquarters - Turner Broadcasting with 18+ major online brands, Home Depot, Lowe's, etc. Yahoo and Google had offices. There are also a lot of small satellite consulting firms. Cost of housing is much lower, though traffic is bad as well. It's a nice green city, but Venture funding is low, so it depends on your ambitions.

UPS hq is in Atlanta, too.

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by dizzystar »

bit_logic wrote: post #50

Disappointed Los Angeles didn't make the list but not surprising. LA has all the right things like colleges (UCLA USC Caltech and others) and same CA employment laws as Silicon Valley. It has big companies like Snapchat but just can't seem to cross that threshold into major tech hub. Maybe Hollywood is just too dominant here, similar to how NYC isn't on the list because finance dominates there.

When I lived in Los Angeles, a significant amount of tech jobs I applied / interviewed for where in the industry. It's possible they are over-looking all the major studios (Sony, NBC, etc), along with the very large support for gaming and movies. Data pipeline, meta data management, and streaming are just a few things that are popular out there.

I think the difference is that many companies in LA are smaller and independent, but I caution that anyone who thinks that Hollywood is more than a small fraction of Los Angeles work hasn't explored much of the city. E-commerce and random website dev is also a much larger market than any town I've seen.

Another problem is the shear size of the city and the accompanying suburbs. You have tech in Pasadena, Burbank, Santa Monica, Torrence, etc, and no sane person would make these cross-town drives every day. I don't think that many people who live in LA even realize how large the place is, and possibly wouldn't realize that many "cities" aren't cities at all, but a part of LA.

In my observation, there is more tech work in LA than Austin, but I digress.

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

cglouch wrote: post #108
cookiecaper wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Utah County is definitely the center of the Utah tech boom. Between UVU and BYU there are lots of small college-fueled startups in Orem/Provo, and many more mature companies formerly based in SLC are moving farther south, at least to Draper/SoJo if not over the point of the mountain. This move has been underway at least since the mid-oughts, but it has accelerated lately after Adobe's investment in the Thanksgiving P…

I'm guessing the reason so many companies are in Utah County is because of tax incentives, but it's still weird to me. I would think that it's harder to attract talent to an office in Provo, seeing as the stereotypical tech worker is probably going to prefer living in SLC where there's less Mormon influence and more going on socially.

But Mormons are very well represented in the tech labor market, so it probably isn't that hard to attract talent in Utah county, it's just not the same mix of people who are working in SLC.

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

icelancer wrote: post #104
zw123456 wrote: post #40

Reasons for Seattle: 1) take a long shower 2) wash your car 3) water your lawn 4) cheap electrical rates 5) enjoy the outdoors 6) awesome IPA's 7) pot is legal 8) great culture 9) moderate weather as global warming progresses downside - traffic is horrible. That is my take as a long time Seattlite.

Been here 12 years and while I agree with those things (not that I care for IPA or weed), there are HUGE major cons: -Traffic is quickly becoming worse than all cities in the US and the tunnel nightmare will not solve that (many projections say it will make it worse) -Local and regional bureaucracy is far worse here than comparable west coast cities -Massively regressive taxes due to no state income tax (consumption…

There are plenty of nice school districts outside of Seattle. Bellevue, Shoreline, Northshore....

Coming from LA, I'm looking forward to cheaper housing prices when I move there next month.

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

0xbear wrote: post #56
zw123456 wrote: post #40

Reasons for Seattle: 1) take a long shower 2) wash your car 3) water your lawn 4) cheap electrical rates 5) enjoy the outdoors 6) awesome IPA's 7) pot is legal 8) great culture 9) moderate weather as global warming progresses downside - traffic is horrible. That is my take as a long time Seattlite.

Also: no income tax. If it's introduced, people will leave in massive droves, because as nice as those things are, 6 months of rain every year is not everyone's cup of tea

Good, I hope they do leave, and it's 9 months of rain, not 6 :). Will the last person to leave Seattle please turn out the lights?

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by Tade0 »

vancan1ty wrote: post #99

Whatever happened to telecommuting eventually making it relatively unimportant where you live? Will this happen in the forseeable future, or will the best tech jobs continue in this trend of centralizing around major hubs?

To me the future is now. I telecommute to a place that's 1400km(875 miles) away. Funny thing is apartments are less expensive in the city in which the office is located, but I choose not to live there.

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

maxdemarzi wrote: post #101
rconti wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hot as hell. More humid than hell half the time, oddly dry the other half.

Sure it's hot and humid, thankfully everything is Air Conditioned and I'm in the pool every night. No public transportation means no public transportation that smells like urine. Since housing is so cheap everyone has nice cars.

Sounds like you'd have a lot of traffic then....

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by rurban »

ynniv wrote: post #12

I get that you work with what you have (in this case, a corpus of job postings), but a ranking that places Baltimore in the top three tech hubs fails the sniff test. CBRE has a better list here (email registration wall): https://www.cbre.com/research-and-reports/Scoring-Tech-Talen... I'm biased in that it places Atlanta unusually high, but overall it is a better, less surprising ranking: Bay Area Seattle New York Was…

It also misses several key areas, like Dallas Ft.Worth which is 4th in absolute number of tech talent, before Chicago, Seattle, Atlanta, LA, Boston, Houston. With e.g. Austin only half of these numbers.

With the pay stats, it's similar: E.g. Newark is #5 but does not even appear on the op's list.

So those 8 hubs, are not the biggest or highest paid, only the ones which match San Jose statistically the most. It's outright silly. https://mapping.cbre.com/maps/Scoring-Tech-Talent-2017/

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