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Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by flukus »

cakedoggie wrote: post #44
jdavis703 wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well you could move to Baltimore and take the MARC train into your DC tech job if cheap housing is what you're optimizing for.

Cheap housing and long travel times are not enviable at all.

As far as long travel times go, trains can be good because you can take your laptop and it's usable time to work on your own projects, watch a movie, play games etc.

I'd be more concerned (with zero knowledge of washington) over whether or not the train + connections would take me near most of the tech jobs.

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by acidburnNSA »

dandr01d wrote: post #42
zw123456 wrote: post #40

Reasons for Seattle: 1) take a long shower 2) wash your car 3) water your lawn 4) cheap electrical rates 5) enjoy the outdoors 6) awesome IPA's 7) pot is legal 8) great culture 9) moderate weather as global warming progresses downside - traffic is horrible. That is my take as a long time Seattlite.

Traffic has gotten so much worse since I first came here in 2011. The good news is that Seattle is small enough that you can walk to most places just fine, and the bus and light rail systems are fantastic.

It's been getting progressively worse, but they recently added HOV lanes both ways on I-90 between Seattle and Bellevue and that has decreased commuter congestion fairly markedly for pretty much everyone who lives in Seattle and work on the Eastside. The HOV lane additions eliminated a few merges so it's now better for everyone. Once the train is running in place of the recently-bygone reversible express lanes life will be even better.

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by ynniv »

theWatcher37 wrote: post #45
ynniv wrote: post #12

I get that you work with what you have (in this case, a corpus of job postings), but a ranking that places Baltimore in the top three tech hubs fails the sniff test. CBRE has a better list here (email registration wall): https://www.cbre.com/research-and-reports/Scoring-Tech-Talen... I'm biased in that it places Atlanta unusually high, but overall it is a better, less surprising ranking: Bay Area Seattle New York Was…

Atlanta has GT though, which is exploding with both startups and major players investing in on-sight "innovation-centric" locations. That, and there's some really cool startups in stealth mode I've yet to see mentioned here, some breaking $10m in revenue and others getting funded left and right. Atlanta is on the rise.

Email me?

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by CoachRufus87 »

theWatcher37 wrote: post #45
ynniv wrote: post #12

I get that you work with what you have (in this case, a corpus of job postings), but a ranking that places Baltimore in the top three tech hubs fails the sniff test. CBRE has a better list here (email registration wall): https://www.cbre.com/research-and-reports/Scoring-Tech-Talen... I'm biased in that it places Atlanta unusually high, but overall it is a better, less surprising ranking: Bay Area Seattle New York Was…

Atlanta has GT though, which is exploding with both startups and major players investing in on-sight "innovation-centric" locations. That, and there's some really cool startups in stealth mode I've yet to see mentioned here, some breaking $10m in revenue and others getting funded left and right. Atlanta is on the rise.

I thought stealth mode meant that a company had yet to launch. Do you mean that they're not pursuing press, just keeping their heads down and making money?

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Post by mgoblu3 »

rmason wrote: post #27

I've seen two surveys in the past week, one where Detroit ranked second in IT job growth and this one by Forbes that ranked Detroit 9th. https://www.forbes.com/sites/joelkotkin/2017/03/16/technolog... Detroit didn't rank here because the cities population is below a million. But with the suburbs Detroit metro is 5 million and I believe that doesn't include Ann Arbor which just ranked as a top startup hub. So this par…

Second in IT job growth is completely due to the auto industry, both the Big 3 and all of the suppliers. While they are good jobs, cost of living here is pretty cheap so jobs are only good paying relative to COL in those other areas (and it's mostly due to the vast sprawl of suburbs like you mentioned).

It does not include Ann Arbor, but Ann Arbor is a real small city compared to anything else that would pop up in those surveys.

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by 0xbear »

zw123456 wrote: post #40

Reasons for Seattle: 1) take a long shower 2) wash your car 3) water your lawn 4) cheap electrical rates 5) enjoy the outdoors 6) awesome IPA's 7) pot is legal 8) great culture 9) moderate weather as global warming progresses downside - traffic is horrible. That is my take as a long time Seattlite.

Also: no income tax. If it's introduced, people will leave in massive droves, because as nice as those things are, 6 months of rain every year is not everyone's cup of tea

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by joseph »

fweespeech wrote: post #41
dzink wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Atlanta is the center of tech ambitions for the southeast. It has a lot of Fortune 500 company headquarters - Turner Broadcasting with 18+ major online brands, Home Depot, Lowe's, etc. Yahoo and Google had offices. There are also a lot of small satellite consulting firms. Cost of housing is much lower, though traffic is bad as well. It's a nice green city, but Venture funding is low, so it depends on your ambitions.

I'd be very cautious about Atlanta. Outside of Google, many of the companies there are wanting to pay salaries I'd consider substantially below market (even including COLA) compared to the other hubs. That includes those fortune 500 companies (a couple of whom had internal recruiters bail when I mentioned my current salary + the COLA number). Cutting your real estate costs by $12-15k goes a long way but it doesn't ma…

I just moved to Atlanta from Seattle and got a 25% raise in the process. In fact I had two similar offers to choose from.

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by zw123456 »

0xbear wrote: post #56
zw123456 wrote: post #40

Reasons for Seattle: 1) take a long shower 2) wash your car 3) water your lawn 4) cheap electrical rates 5) enjoy the outdoors 6) awesome IPA's 7) pot is legal 8) great culture 9) moderate weather as global warming progresses downside - traffic is horrible. That is my take as a long time Seattlite.

Also: no income tax. If it's introduced, people will leave in massive droves, because as nice as those things are, 6 months of rain every year is not everyone's cup of tea

Yes, exactly, thanks for reminding me, one BIG reason I have stayed and work remote, I get 10% more.

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by zw123456 »

0xbear wrote: post #56
zw123456 wrote: post #40

Reasons for Seattle: 1) take a long shower 2) wash your car 3) water your lawn 4) cheap electrical rates 5) enjoy the outdoors 6) awesome IPA's 7) pot is legal 8) great culture 9) moderate weather as global warming progresses downside - traffic is horrible. That is my take as a long time Seattlite.

Also: no income tax. If it's introduced, people will leave in massive droves, because as nice as those things are, 6 months of rain every year is not everyone's cup of tea

Yes, exactly, thanks for reminding me, one BIG reason I have stayed and work remote, I get 10% more.

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by majormajor »

bit_logic wrote: post #50

Disappointed Los Angeles didn't make the list but not surprising. LA has all the right things like colleges (UCLA USC Caltech and others) and same CA employment laws as Silicon Valley. It has big companies like Snapchat but just can't seem to cross that threshold into major tech hub. Maybe Hollywood is just too dominant here, similar to how NYC isn't on the list because finance dominates there.

Like NY, the population is just way too big for percentage ranked metrics.

Those metrics can be misleading, though: if you want to change jobs, you care more about "total number of other interesting opportunities in this one field" than "number of opportunities in this field compared to other fields."

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