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Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by r-s »

ynniv wrote: post #12

I get that you work with what you have (in this case, a corpus of job postings), but a ranking that places Baltimore in the top three tech hubs fails the sniff test. CBRE has a better list here (email registration wall): https://www.cbre.com/research-and-reports/Scoring-Tech-Talen... I'm biased in that it places Atlanta unusually high, but overall it is a better, less surprising ranking: Bay Area Seattle New York Was…

Toronto has got to be the worst deal on that list in terms of salary vs cost of living.

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by autokad »

ynniv wrote: post #12

I get that you work with what you have (in this case, a corpus of job postings), but a ranking that places Baltimore in the top three tech hubs fails the sniff test. CBRE has a better list here (email registration wall): https://www.cbre.com/research-and-reports/Scoring-Tech-Talen... I'm biased in that it places Atlanta unusually high, but overall it is a better, less surprising ranking: Bay Area Seattle New York Was…

I just searched for open jobs in Baltimore and was surprised. It has more than Atlanta FYI (not a thorough search though)

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by hyperpape »

randcraw wrote: post #20
Ologn wrote: post #7

Baltimore and Raleigh are tech hubs, and New York is not? In 2000 when the dot-com's went bust, things were not so bad for IT in New York because the other industries were still going along - media, advertising, fashion, and of course, finance. San Francisco has all its eggs in one basket. Plus New York has Stack Overflow, Spotify, Computer Associates, IBM, Seamless, Rockstar Games, Kickstarter and companies like tha…

The problem with this article is its focus on the fraction of a city's total jobs that are high tech, not the number of high tech jobs. Raleigh's total market is small compared to NYC's, of course (~2 million in 2013). Even then I can't believe a high fraction of work in the Research Triangle area is tech related. Aside from the 3 universities, it just doesn't have many significant tech employers these days. It's bee…

I won't argue about a relative comparison to other cities, but the claim that there aren't a lot of tech jobs doesn't hold water.

Searching for largest employers in Durham and Wake county, you'll see that there's a lot of tech. IBM is third largest overall employer in Durham, SAS is fifth in Wake, Cisco is seventh, followed by plenty of others that aren't quite as big. (Red Hat headquarters are here but they don't even make the list I searched http://d4.nccommerce.com/QCEWLargestEmployers.aspx).

What the triangle doesn't have is "sexy" tech. There's a lot of medium or small satellite offices, companies like Fidelity, Lenovo or Credit Suisse hiring people, and so on. Far fewer consumer oriented startups.

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by Hydraulix989 »

ynniv wrote: post #12

I get that you work with what you have (in this case, a corpus of job postings), but a ranking that places Baltimore in the top three tech hubs fails the sniff test. CBRE has a better list here (email registration wall): https://www.cbre.com/research-and-reports/Scoring-Tech-Talen... I'm biased in that it places Atlanta unusually high, but overall it is a better, less surprising ranking: Bay Area Seattle New York Was…

Wasn't there a front page article on here about Pittsburgh the other day?

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Post by dzink »

ynniv wrote: post #12

I get that you work with what you have (in this case, a corpus of job postings), but a ranking that places Baltimore in the top three tech hubs fails the sniff test. CBRE has a better list here (email registration wall): https://www.cbre.com/research-and-reports/Scoring-Tech-Talen... I'm biased in that it places Atlanta unusually high, but overall it is a better, less surprising ranking: Bay Area Seattle New York Was…

Atlanta is the center of tech ambitions for the southeast. It has a lot of Fortune 500 company headquarters - Turner Broadcasting with 18+ major online brands, Home Depot, Lowe's, etc. Yahoo and Google had offices. There are also a lot of small satellite consulting firms. Cost of housing is much lower, though traffic is bad as well. It's a nice green city, but Venture funding is low, so it depends on your ambitions.

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by RobSim »

mannykannot wrote: post #13

There are some highly technical (and specifically information-techical) jobs in finance that don't seem to be included here. This may also be the case for other areas, as well.

As someone in finance this is quite interesting to me, do you have any examples? Job titles or sample postings?

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by grahamburger »

bognition wrote: post #23
ynniv wrote: post #12

I get that you work with what you have (in this case, a corpus of job postings), but a ranking that places Baltimore in the top three tech hubs fails the sniff test. CBRE has a better list here (email registration wall): https://www.cbre.com/research-and-reports/Scoring-Tech-Talen... I'm biased in that it places Atlanta unusually high, but overall it is a better, less surprising ranking: Bay Area Seattle New York Was…

Yeah, theres something wrong here. It put Orem/Provo on the list when all of the tech jobs in Utah are actually further north. Mainly in Lehi and Salt Lake City.

Lehi is part of Orem / Provo MTA which I'm guessing is how these are split up.

I'll bet Provo / Orem beats SLC on a lot of these metrics just because of Vivint and a few other bigger names.

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by jdavis703 »

frandroid wrote: post #15
ynniv wrote: post #12

I get that you work with what you have (in this case, a corpus of job postings), but a ranking that places Baltimore in the top three tech hubs fails the sniff test. CBRE has a better list here (email registration wall): https://www.cbre.com/research-and-reports/Scoring-Tech-Talen... I'm biased in that it places Atlanta unusually high, but overall it is a better, less surprising ranking: Bay Area Seattle New York Was…

I was like, hot damn, cheap housing and good paying jobs, I'm moving to Baltimore!!

Well you could move to Baltimore and take the MARC train into your DC tech job if cheap housing is what you're optimizing for.

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by hyperpape »

rmason wrote: post #27

I've seen two surveys in the past week, one where Detroit ranked second in IT job growth and this one by Forbes that ranked Detroit 9th. https://www.forbes.com/sites/joelkotkin/2017/03/16/technolog... Detroit didn't rank here because the cities population is below a million. But with the suburbs Detroit metro is 5 million and I believe that doesn't include Ann Arbor which just ranked as a top startup hub. So this par…

Not sure what the method was, but Raleigh and Durham are both individually smaller than Detroit, and the metro area is less than half the size of the Detroit metro.

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by zw123456 »

Reasons for Seattle: 1) take a long shower 2) wash your car 3) water your lawn 4) cheap electrical rates 5) enjoy the outdoors 6) awesome IPA's 7) pot is legal 8) great culture 9) moderate weather as global warming progresses

downside - traffic is horrible.

That is my take as a long time Seattlite.

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