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The difference between iPhone + Android: Great since day one
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Re: The difference between iPhone + Android: Great since day one
#72Another sucker on the Apple teet
Re: The difference between iPhone + Android: Great since day one
#73I can agree that Apple does great things from Day One like the Macintosh and the iPhone. But Apple also has a tendency to be complacent and allow the competition to catch up. That's what's going to happen with the iPhone and Android, like it did with the Macintosh and Windows.
Great at Day One or not, the customer will eventually select freedom of choice and this is where Apple will lose.
Re: The difference between iPhone + Android: Great since day one
#74How can you claim to create the worlds best devices, yet cannot pull off copy/paste. Its not exactly the traveling salesman problem...
Re: The difference between iPhone + Android: Great since day one
#75A friend of mine lend me is iPod Touch. To get it working with Wifi or connect it to iTunes running on windows is a very painful process.
I didn't had these problems (No need using the iTunes in the first place)with the G1, Motorola Droid, even my old N95.
So what is so great?
Re: The difference between iPhone + Android: Great since day one
#76The iPhone was a poor device on day one. Limited to a poor carrier, it was a poor phone, with only a handful of built-in apps, no GPS, etc. The Nexus One was a quite a nice device from day one, and in my opinion better than the iPhone 3GS. But this is apples to oranges. The way a device is from day one is less relevant when the race is long. What was important in competing with Apple's first move was being first to a…
Poor relative to what? Maybe we need to hop in the time machine and relive what smart phones were like in January of 2007 before asking if you want to stick with such an asinine statement.
This is my own experience. Every user have different needs and preference.
My previous phone was Dopod with Windows Mobile 5 since 2005 (very long time huh). And during my first month using iPhone 3GS, I've been struggling using it (and iTunes). There are times when I want to use back my old phone.
Re: The difference between iPhone + Android: Great since day one
#77The iPhone was a poor device on day one. Limited to a poor carrier, it was a poor phone, with only a handful of built-in apps, no GPS, etc. The Nexus One was a quite a nice device from day one, and in my opinion better than the iPhone 3GS. But this is apples to oranges. The way a device is from day one is less relevant when the race is long. What was important in competing with Apple's first move was being first to a…
Why would you even compare the Nexus One to the first generation iPhone? That's like saying "The first computer in existence sucked, my Mac Pro is way better."
Because marco specifically stated in his article that Apple products are great from day one.
Re: The difference between iPhone + Android: Great since day one
#78Someone is channeling their inner-John Gruber, apparently.
The original iPhone had a mediocre display, a forgettable design, zero apps (and, contrary to the revisionism that is now the rage, had zero plans on every having apps at inception. Apple and AT&T saw apps as a unnecessary risk, and web apps were the only solution), a terrible back-facing camera (and no front facing camera, which in those early days was considered an egregious oversight), and it was strangely 2G in a world that had already moved to 3G.
It succeeded because it was Apple. To say that it was "Great since day one" should embarrass the speaker, and if Nokia, or Motorola, or anyone else released that phone it would have been panned.
The latest iPhone needs to be cocooned inside a case lest you shatter the good-looking-but-bad-engineering glass back or touch the untouchable antenna. Great since day one?
It has a video chat application that inexplicably only works between iPhone 4 users on WiFi, which to most other companies wouldn't even classify as "beta". Great since day one?
It has a notification system that is horribly crippled by the most generous evaluation. Great since day one?
The iPhone is a gorgeous, gorgeous phone. It is the new trendsetter. It is not without many flaws however, though it sits in that remarkable favored area where flaws are glossed over. Indeed, it's telling that Apple's flaws only become obvious to the faithful once the replacement is available. Suddenly, you'll note, every Apple-head is talking about how the iPhone 3GS is dated, feels plasticy and cheap, etc (Hey, I was saying that since it came out, but of course as the deliverance from Apple it was impossible that could be true, until the next deliverance).
These sorts of cult-religious screeds are an embarrassment to technology.
I mentioned Gruber earlier because this Marco guy is stealing his schtick.
Re: The difference between iPhone + Android: Great since day one
#79Someone is channeling their inner-John Gruber, apparently. The original iPhone had a mediocre display, a forgettable design, zero apps (and, contrary to the revisionism that is now the rage, had zero plans on every having apps at inception. Apple and AT&T saw apps as a unnecessary risk, and web apps were the only solution), a terrible back-facing camera (and no front facing camera, which in those early days was consi…
Oh, add that iOS 4 cribs Android multitasking almost directly.
And when it borrows from Android's notification system, replacing the terrible system it has now (they're already hiring in this space), at release people like Gruber and Marco will say "See, this is what makes Apple great: It's great since day one!"
When you can look at the world like that, defining "day one" to be when the product is no longer second-rate, it's easy to say that.
Android is "great since day one", so long as you ignore everything prior to 2.2.
Re: The difference between iPhone + Android: Great since day one
#80TLDR: Marco is not a big fan of choice in the market place.