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Twitter Fails to Grow Its Audience Again

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Re: Twitter Fails to Grow Its Audience Again

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[opens Twitter] EVERYONE: How dare you be a cisgender, heterosexual, able-bodied, white male?!?!??!?! ME: …Ok then. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

You're not following the correct people. I agree it's sad that almost everybody involved with tech is a die-hard liberal :P I'd love to get my tech news from Twitter but I simply don't like to be told how to think regarding politics, which tech people do all day. So I just read Hacker News...

I don't mind die-hard liberals who are actually open-minded believers in individual rights and equality.

The whole white, het, cisgender stuff is coming from intersectional feminism, which is anything but a liberal philosophy.

Re: Twitter Fails to Grow Its Audience Again

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I'm @mxschumacher on the platform and it took me three years to "get Twitter", but now I love it. Went from following 1500 to only 400. Almost no politics now and high granularity & outstanding signal to noise ratio. An insight-machine that I would not want to miss. Selection criteria I use: - don't pay too much attention to profile, better to check actual tweets. Plenty of smart/impressive sounding tech/science peop…

That is an absolutely fabulous list! I took the time to follow each one manually. I was surprised to recognize at least 25% of the names from off Twitter.

glad you like it :)

I think more people would like Twitter if they didn't have to spend 30h+ curating content until it becomes valuable

Re: Twitter Fails to Grow Its Audience Again

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I'm @mxschumacher on the platform and it took me three years to "get Twitter", but now I love it. Went from following 1500 to only 400. Almost no politics now and high granularity & outstanding signal to noise ratio. An insight-machine that I would not want to miss. Selection criteria I use: - don't pay too much attention to profile, better to check actual tweets. Plenty of smart/impressive sounding tech/science peop…

Nice list! Thanks for the gift to the community, Max. I bet this took a lot of work to curate. I'm following you. Better yet, I'm following who you follow.

It did take a lot of time, because there's hardly any automation. I largely built it from piggy backing: the following lists of the intellectual Twitter elite: e.g. @balajis @naval @cdixon @juliagalef are fertile hunting grounds!

Re: Twitter Fails to Grow Its Audience Again

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Do you use lists?

I would love to, e.g. "software engineers", "authors", "investors" etc, but imo the feature is completely unusable as there is no batch editing. Definitely has a lot of potential, especially when combined with filters: "Give me Silicon Valley people minus politics and hyperlocal info"

I didn't know about lists(not a hardcore Twitter user) until this thread then I went to check it out.

First thought was, great feature, but I had the same issue with batch editing, then I tried using lists through Tweetdeck and it is much easier to create lists, remove & add profiles to each list, Twitter might actually become useful for me with this.

Re: Twitter Fails to Grow Its Audience Again

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Haven't used it in a while, but: I think if you use it via user auth, it still works. So if a user of your app is approving your app to act on their behalf, you can do most things the user could do manually. I think the limits mainly regarded application auth. So if your application wants the last 10k tweets about "honey" it will not get them unless you pay. I could be wrong though. Would love to hear more from peopl…

The search API is limited to 7 days. You can get a 1% firehose feed, too, so you can tell the relatively frequency of hashtags and stuff. All this is free and you don't need user auth. User auth gives you extra rate limit increase (a separate bucket per user). https://dev.twitter.com/rest/public/rate-limits The big number for app auth is you can do 450 searches/15 minutes, with up to 100 tweets each. So last 10k on "…

(Shameless self plug) You might be able to use http://tweetstream.space I created this tool, that isn't limited to 1-week-old tweets, uses the public feed, and outputs it to an easily parsed format.

Re: Twitter Fails to Grow Its Audience Again

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I think I'd probably stop using Twitter (the only social network I use) if they ditched the 140 character format. I don't want to see long form facebook style posts there, its literally their differentiation.

Well if they remove the 140 character limit I'll start using Twitter again. Looks like they're breaking even.

So umm exactly what they are being criticized for in the article?

Re: Twitter Fails to Grow Its Audience Again

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I guess I don't have a formal proof for you, but in general the more characters/words a response contains the more significant, relevant, important, consequential, telling or material it is. Of course you can find counter examples, but considering the New York times still publishes articles and hasn't moved fully to Tweeting (yet anyway) I would say more often than not it's difficult to convey or articulate things co…

>but in general the more characters/words a response contains the more significant, relevant, important, consequential, telling or material it is Yep because the longest books are the most important...lol fuck outta here There are NYT articles that are just tweet embeds with some of their language around it to make it seem like the journos did work. Hell half of their articles about the Trump white house are tweets f…

Please stop now.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Twitter Fails to Grow Its Audience Again

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When reading comments I have to be very careful not to click outside the column because it gets closed and position lost. That's also my experience - I have to be very careful not to click on anything, lest I lose my position on the thread. I don't understand how the developers themselves don't get frustrated about this, frankly.

You think the developers of Twitter use Twitter?

Not heavily, no, and definitely not on Android (at least), where they have some algorithm to reflow the timeline both at random times, and after viewing a specific tweet. Click the back button to continue reading your timeline and they insert 5-20 tweets in between the one you just read and the one you were about to read, or they pop you up to the top of your timeline.

It's truly a bizarre UX, and the only charitable way I can interpret it is that they're using Continuous Delivery, implementing features in a piecemeal fashion, using users as alpha testers, and basically moving slow and breaking things.

Re: Twitter Fails to Grow Its Audience Again

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Best knowledge-exchange platform for tech-people I've seen so far. With some careful selection of who to follow it even has an ok signal-to-noise ratio. Every single feature Twitter has implemented in the past few years made it worse for this type of audience though.

how is it the best knowledge exchange platform when most statements or arguments quickly end with "twitter isn't the best place for this convo"

IMO it's a chicken and the egg thing, they probably got some quality early users(similar to what Quora did) and those brought in more quality content users, soon enough more people were getting in just because that's where the knowledge exchange for tech people is, even if it's not the best tool for the job itself.
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