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Poll: What is your religion?

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Re: Poll: What is your religion?

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post #32

It seems disingenuous to mix Agnosicism with Atheism. Both are utterly different - one makes a knowledge claim (atheism) while the other is in a position of neutrality or indifference (agnosticism)

Really comes down to a matter of definitions. For example, many would claim that atheism is simply the lack of a belief. Some would define agnosticism as the positive belief that the existence of God cannot be known. But these are just example definitions.

Re: Poll: What is your religion?

#52
post #11

Interesting question. I have lot of theories regarding religion and I wonder if the HN community is interested discussing them. Just one question now (for Atheists): Why don't you believe in God. Do you have a good reason? Is it because it doesn't interest you? Is it because of a scientific theory that proved to you that God don't exist?

Much for the same reason that I don't believe Gollum (Lord of the Rings) or Harry Potter exist. For the same reason that I don't believe that there is a Giant Invisible Teapot in outer space (Russell's teapot). Just so you know, it wasn't always this way. I used to believe in Allah (as a Muslim).

Hang on, so The Teapot isn't real??

Re: Poll: What is your religion?

#53
post #11

Interesting question. I have lot of theories regarding religion and I wonder if the HN community is interested discussing them. Just one question now (for Atheists): Why don't you believe in God. Do you have a good reason? Is it because it doesn't interest you? Is it because of a scientific theory that proved to you that God don't exist?

Personally I think even if God exists, religious people are still wrong. They're 'sucking up to God' instead of getting on with their lives on their own terms (ie. not accepting anything for which they have no proof).

Most people value religion because of its moral lessons (see PG's essay on relgious 'package deals' - I think it was in Why Nerds Are Unpopular), and perhaps fear the 'moral vacuum' of a godless world. But personally I have no trouble deriving morality from logic/reason and empirical data, so I have no need for religion.

For the record I think most of the Ten Commandments are valuable lessons regardless of their divinity.

Re: Poll: What is your religion?

#54
post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

as far as everyday life goes, would it make a difference? Being part of the religions usually means various changes to your routines

Although, an agnostic who is aware of the implications of Pascal's Wager would probably still implement those changes.

Pascal's Wager is ridiculous. It is rooted in a false dichotomy and attempts to salve the conscience by the acceptance of a contradiction.

Re: Poll: What is your religion?

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post #11

Interesting question. I have lot of theories regarding religion and I wonder if the HN community is interested discussing them. Just one question now (for Atheists): Why don't you believe in God. Do you have a good reason? Is it because it doesn't interest you? Is it because of a scientific theory that proved to you that God don't exist?

What do you mean by "believe"?

Does it mean considering that an idea you hold in your mind is a valid conceptual representation of some aspect of external reality?

Or does it mean to value an idea in itself, irrespective of its relationship with any autonomous external reality?

Re: Poll: What is your religion?

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post #40
post #32

It seems disingenuous to mix Agnosicism with Atheism. Both are utterly different - one makes a knowledge claim (atheism) while the other is in a position of neutrality or indifference (agnosticism)

as far as everyday life goes, would it make a difference? Being part of the religions usually means various changes to your routines

I think the split is a fairly good indication of how rational someone is. People who consider themselves atheist tend to act more rationally in the bayesian sense.

I'd like to see a split between atheists and agnostics, particularly because the numbers are so high in that category in this community. I would guess that there would be many more agnostics than atheists. I don't think that being an entrepreneur is particularly bayesianly rational :)

Re: Poll: What is your religion?

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post #33
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

but I personally find existing religions I have looked at (mostly Christian religions) insatisfactory and haven't found the need to dig too deeply into what else is out there. You should take into account that those religions appeared hundred, yet thousands of year before you. They are custom made for the population of that time and they should have basic ideas that their brains can understand. So those religions may…

If you traveled back 2000 years with a helecoptor, or modern weapons, or a bulldozer - you'd be a higher power.

At least until you ran out of fuel... ;-)

Re: Poll: What is your religion?

#60
post #11

Interesting question. I have lot of theories regarding religion and I wonder if the HN community is interested discussing them. Just one question now (for Atheists): Why don't you believe in God. Do you have a good reason? Is it because it doesn't interest you? Is it because of a scientific theory that proved to you that God don't exist?

I don't believe in God because I've never heard a good reason to believe in God. I find it odd that you presume a need for a good reason to not believe in something. If I did need such reasons, I'd need a good reason to not believe in invisible pink unicorns, teapots in orbit around Saturn, and many other things. (Apologies if I've misinterpreted you.)

Let's assume that neither of us know if God REALLY exists...don't you think it might be safer to hedge your bet and believe in a god - for the afterlife?

What will it cost you to believe in God while you are alive? Nothing.

What will it cost you if there really is a god and you chose not to believe? Could cost you eternity. So why not believe? The upside is (in the worst case) the same as not believing, but the downside (in the worst case) could be eternal damnation.

This is ofcourse assuming that the person that does exist, believes in the right god.

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