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Forgotten Religions That Worshipped Electricity

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Re: Forgotten Religions That Worshipped Electricity

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I wouldn't be a bit surprised should a serious religion spring up that worships the concept of a GAI, and in fact may as a part of that worship, work toward implementing it. I am really surprised that Mentifex hasn't started such a cult himself already! /or maybe he has, and it's a cult of one member only...?

The LessWrong crowd has been called cultish more than once.

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I wouldn't be a bit surprised should a serious religion spring up that worships the concept of a GAI, and in fact may as a part of that worship, work toward implementing it. I am really surprised that Mentifex hasn't started such a cult himself already! /or maybe he has, and it's a cult of one member only...?

That's basically Roko's basilisk, isn't it?

That particular memetic hazard has never inspired a religion. It was a thought experiment; I don't know of anyone who admits to seriously believing in it.

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Seems like people can find spirituality/religion in just about anything. It reminds me of the Cargo Cults. They started as contact with more technologically advanced societies was force on less sophisticated societies. It was less than 150 years ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_cult

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> [...] the Oneida Community of New York. Founded by John Humphrey Noyes in 1848, the Protestant commune believed that Jesus Christ’s power was a form of liquid electricity that could be transmitted to believers through touch. As the most intimate form of touch is sex, the group also believed that, if they had enough of it, they’d create a spiritual battery that would make them immortal and create heaven on earth. So…

> wouldn't having sex among themselves only serve to redistribute the power more evenly among the group

Reading that I thought about the perhaps more conventional sense of 'power' in that context. Monogamy to some extent at least is a social construct designed to establish and consolidate power.

Marriage and the concept of legitimate children was the pivotal aspect of feudal society. Inheritance today still largely depends on this notion. Dynasties are possible alone because of lineage.

If it doesn't matter who has sex with whom and who someone's parents are because there's no clearly delineated nuclear family this might indeed work as an equaliser.

Re: Forgotten Religions That Worshipped Electricity

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I wouldn't be a bit surprised should a serious religion spring up that worships the concept of a GAI, and in fact may as a part of that worship, work toward implementing it. I am really surprised that Mentifex hasn't started such a cult himself already! /or maybe he has, and it's a cult of one member only...?

> I wouldn't be a bit surprised should a serious religion spring up that worships the concept of a GAI, and in fact may as a part of that worship, work toward implementing it.

The LessWrong crowd is exactly that. They've got their own saints, demons, eschatological prophecies, and, of course, a money basket where you're encouraged to tithe generously (https://intelligence.org/donate/)

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> "So the community encouraged polygamy, orgies and generally engaging in as much sexual activity as possible. Needless to say, the Oneida members were a happy bunch, and the commune lasted more than three decades." Actually, Oneida had a commitmee of elder woman. You applied to the committee to have sex with someone one time, and they could approve or deny you. (This was designed to prevent forming couples, slow dow…

So earlier on HN I was wondering how two willing co-workers could proposition each other for casual sex without creating sexual harassment problems for themselves or the company.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14854649

The Oneida cult was basically a business where everyone worked but also had lots of casual sex and they had a solution. Elder women served as the go-between. Men would not ask women directly for sex. This is a bit like Tinder with a trusted person to tally swipe rights and swipe lefts.

From the article: http://www.collectorsweekly.com/articles/the-polyamorous-chr...

"“The word ‘interview’ was the Oneidans’ euphemism for a sexual rendezvous,” Wayland-Smith says. “It was mostly men who requested the interviews, but they would never ask a woman directly. A couple of older, respected women of the Community acted as go-betweens. A man would say, ‘I want to have an interview with so-and-so,’ and he would ask this go-between to speak to the woman. In theory, a woman could decline without being embarrassed. In practice, the group was small enough that there was definitely social pressure like, ‘It will be good for you to sleep with this person.’"

There would be less social pressure in this cross between LinkedIn, Legal Zoom and Tinder because it would be a SAAS app and not a person being the go-between, but it still would probably be a problem if the office started getting gossipy, which would inevitably happen.

Re: Forgotten Religions That Worshipped Electricity

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post #16

> [...] the Oneida Community of New York. Founded by John Humphrey Noyes in 1848, the Protestant commune believed that Jesus Christ’s power was a form of liquid electricity that could be transmitted to believers through touch. As the most intimate form of touch is sex, the group also believed that, if they had enough of it, they’d create a spiritual battery that would make them immortal and create heaven on earth. So…

> wouldn't having sex among themselves only serve to redistribute the power more evenly among the group Reading that I thought about the perhaps more conventional sense of 'power' in that context. Monogamy to some extent at least is a social construct designed to establish and consolidate power. Marriage and the concept of legitimate children was the pivotal aspect of feudal society. Inheritance today still largely d…

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