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So how do you do playlists when you just drag files to folders? What if you wanted the same song in multiple playlists? How do you do smart playlist? All of this is not as popular now as it was during the iPods heyday but it was popular then.
What is a M3U file
Apple’s refusal to support Progressive Web Apps is a detriment to the web
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Re: Apple’s refusal to support Progressive Web Apps is a detriment to the web
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This is not surprising of Apple. They've always been a walled garden, that's why I don't buy their products. I like to own products that give me full control as a user. When the iPod came out, I never understood why I couldn't just drag the music files directly onto the device and I had to get iTunes and use iTune's tedious interface. Now they have the app store; another unnecessary restriction. As a developer, it's…
I just want to note that as a developer you can run any code you want on your iPhone through XCode for free. You just can't distribute it in the App Store without a license ($100 a year). You can distribute the code though, and users can compile and install it. This is how Kodi distributes on Apple platforms. This is a newish change though, within the last couple of years.
Re: Apple’s refusal to support Progressive Web Apps is a detriment to the web
#293I think a lot of commenters here are missing the point and getting distracted by push notifications (who wants a website spamming them with notifications?) and loading screens (hardly a feature). Apple supporting PWA (Progressive Web Apps) is hugely important because it enables a future where web apps can natively support browser, Mac/Windows/Linux desktop, and mobile iPhone/Android/Windows native mobile with a singl…
I never quite understood the complaint about having to learn a new tech stack to write native apps. As a native app dev, it feels kind of like getting angry that your skills in motorcycle mechanics don't transfer to building rockets. And this complaint practically always comes from the front end web crew... every other type of developer I've met has zero issues with learning the technologies relevant to a particular…
PWAs are a great idea for me. Getting an Apple developer license is not.
Re: Apple’s refusal to support Progressive Web Apps is a detriment to the web
#294Further, the majority of US smartphone users download zero apps in a typical month. What's the point of making a "superior" app, if no one is ever going to see it? https://qz.com/253618/most-smartphone-users-download-zero-ap...
From a user perspective, I care less about whether the app is a PWA or native, and more about the "goal" I'm trying to achieve. If my goal is to find a new house, a PWA allows me to instantly see results (without first having to download an app), then use native-like features such as being notified when new properties are available. I can use these features after I visit a given website and am prompted to save the app to my homescreen.
Compare this to the random native apps that people accumulate on their phone until it slows down so much that they have to perform an "app purge".
Re: Apple’s refusal to support Progressive Web Apps is a detriment to the web
#295As an iOS user, one thing I surely don't want are more web apps. The web is for content (including APIs Robbe used by native apps) not for apps, if on desktop or mobile. Here's why: - lower performance. It can't be as fast as native as long as there's still the browser underneath - non-native experience. I use iOS because I like it better than android. I like the UI and UX, how it looks and feels. I don't want an web…
This is going to radically change with Webassembly, stay tuned.
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GMail was (and maybe keeps being) a much better user experience than native email clients for desktop PCs.
It's better in that it required no configuration. But from a UI perspective it feels inferior. For example, native clients can just show you a list of all your messages, but GMail still paginates like a late-90s PHP site.
Re: Apple’s refusal to support Progressive Web Apps is a detriment to the web
#297I think push notifications and offline support are the real killer features that Apple currently doesn't support. It's kind of funny as a web developer because for the longest time Apple seemed to be the one pushing the mobile web forward but now that web apps are reaching for feature parity with native, Apple's initial momentum seems to be ancient history. It seems Apple still thinks of the mobile web as a content d…
Is there a reason for users to care about this at all? Because it seems to me that this just solves problems for developers while making the user experience worse or not as good as it could be. The same goes for Electron-based apps.
>The same goes for Electron-based apps.
When it comes to Electron apps I think any failing to provider a top notch user experience is on the developer and not on the technology. Visual Studio Code is based on Electron and it is hands down the best text editor/IDE-lite out there because the team behind it put the time in to make seem like the type of app you would get out established UI frameworks within the target environment.Re: Apple’s refusal to support Progressive Web Apps is a detriment to the web
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As a user, I think crappy or unethical web developers would ruin it for everybody. At least with native apps, there's a somewhat consistent way for me to manage notifications (and I have 95% of them turned off).
whats the issue if you're granting permission for them though? just say no if it's from Buzzfeed, yes if it's from my XYZ service - that's all it takes. And - I would expect notification management would need to be similarly accessible. Notifications are tough to do as is - and a core user need. You and I might turn them off, but many people rely on them heavily. If I have responsive web app with notifications - that…
So a web app is easier for you, but aren't you really just transferring the cost to your users in the form of battery and data consumption?
Re: Apple’s refusal to support Progressive Web Apps is a detriment to the web
#299I am starting to get a vibe that there is a new breed of programmers who think that knowing just one language is good enough and learning anything else is "stifling innovation". I don't even want to start on "PWAs work more seamlessly than native". I just cannot take person making such claims seriously.
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We're going to end up at an "Idiocracy" of programming.
Re: Apple’s refusal to support Progressive Web Apps is a detriment to the web
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But when everything is pushed to the web the same argument applies to your browser. > Why do I need a web app, tens of millions of lines of code, a website with massive permissions to my browser. > To read a news article? > ...
Because the web app is portable across OS'es to start with.