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Swedish Government Scrambles to Contain Damage from Data Breach

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Re: Swedish Government Scrambles to Contain Damage from Data Breach

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Here's a summary of what foreign powers got access to: - identities of undercover operatives - personal identity data of everyone with a driver's licence - people with protected identities - location of all army vehicles - money transport vehicles - classified infrastructure information Even worse: when they realized they'd leaked photos, home addresses and SSNs of protected identities, they sent a clear text email a…

I realy fail to see how being a "feminist" government has any bearing on the issue at hand. Sure the government screwed up, but the rant part just takes away from the valid points you've raised.

The screw-up was initiated by Alliansen (not the current government), by outsourcing this to IBM.

I'm not saying current government are free of blame here, but please stop trying to fit this into a "feminist" argument.

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"unaccompanied minors" the ones that claim to be 17y.o. when they can get away with it?

I'm sure an overwhelming number of unaccompanied minor refugees are in fact adults claiming to be 17. /s

Don't be so sure they aren't. They have every incentive in the world to lie. They already violated international law once by seeking refugee status in Sweden instead of first peaceful port.

Either way, even if they are just 16, it does not change the fact that two years later, the vast majority of adult refugees are male.

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Well, she was also fired (finally) and her career is finished. I agree it was monumentally stupid. But "punished as high treason"? Treason requires intent. She most certainly did not intend to be criminally disloyal to the country. Merely being ignorant and incompetent is not treason. This is a major fuckup but let's be real. Our country is a "joke"? I know complaining is a national sport in Sweden, much like in many…

Wait what? She knew that was a possibility and that it is highly illegal and still she went through with it. I would say that is having intent if anything. I love my country but I think she should be punished a lot harder. Arkebusering på slottsgården. But since that will never happen, 12 years in jail is probably enough.

Is that word from the same root as arquebus?

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There is a lot of resistance, universally it seems, to the concept that outsourcing is different to in-house development/administration. It doesn't even seem like its a knowledge issue, but rather willful ignorance. Cost, convenience, and less likelihood to be blame for faults is more important than security and control. To take one example, only government entity that I know that don't outsource email would be the m…

It's darwinian; if you don't deliver the savings you are out. One solution would be rigorous research that demonstrated that insourced onshore operations were more effective and cheaper in the long run. But no such research exists, is that because it's hard to do or is it because the result is that offshoring and outsourcing is cheaper and as good?

no its because vested interests want to prove that outsourcing is all rainbows and unicorns.

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I realy fail to see how being a "feminist" government has any bearing on the issue at hand. Sure the government screwed up, but the rant part just takes away from the valid points you've raised.

The screw-up was initiated by Alliansen (not the current government), by outsourcing this to IBM. I'm not saying current government are free of blame here, but please stop trying to fit this into a "feminist" argument.

How can this be Alliansens fault? It was the current government-assigned general director of the Transport Agency that knowingly broke the law. She was even informed by SÄPO (Swedish equivalent of MI5 or CIA) that what she's trying to do is illegal, but still went through with it.

The problem here is not outsourcing, because it is completely legal to do so as long as the company outsourced to goes through with proper security checks and clearances. For example the servers has to be located in Sweden and that proper access permissions are set for the employees.

Outsourcing can in some cases be a very good choice to improve efficiency of tax spending.

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Another IBM stuff up... anyone remember the Australian Census screw up? http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-25/ibm-to-pay-over-$30m-i...

I don't know how much blame you can put on IBM here. - The Transport Agency decided to outsource operations, and IBM won the contract (April 2015) - The following month, the head of the agency decided to ignore certain laws about privacy, secrecy, etc., as well as the agency's own requirements about information security - The Swedish Security Service, Säpo (basically our FBI), immediately got wind of this and started…

It seems that all of the shifting of labour is working out for IBM. I wonder how long it will be before the statement "nobody got fired for picking IBM" becomes false.

But that timeline does seem quite ridiculous. To wilfully ignore the recommendations of you security services, seems almost Trumpesque.

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The biggest problem with this story is not that it happened, it is that it could happen again. IT issues is heavily underestimated in government agencies and corporations [1], viewed like it' nothing important. The same goes for politicians, they don't give so much attention to IT at all. The problem is of course lack of knowledge. They don't understand how important it is and that it is one of societies most critica…

There's a really good breakdown of the Swedish Security Service's (Säpo) report on this case in Swedish, written by a knowledgeable journalist. It's fairly ok in English through Google translate. http://www.breakit.se/artikel/8326/jag-laste-sapos-gransknin...

Re: Swedish Government Scrambles to Contain Damage from Data Breach

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The biggest problem with this story is not that it happened, it is that it could happen again. IT issues is heavily underestimated in government agencies and corporations [1], viewed like it' nothing important. The same goes for politicians, they don't give so much attention to IT at all. The problem is of course lack of knowledge. They don't understand how important it is and that it is one of societies most critica…

Funny thing about that article is that they're themselves using google analytics

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Watching "Kingsmen" last night feels very timely.

All-right, I have to ask; what is the correlation you see between that movie and these events?

Kingsmen's ending takes place in Sweden and features both a Swedish prime minister and a Swedish princess of which the protagonist has anal sex with.
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