ActionScript is still loved by the Starling community. I don't really think i'll miss the swf format, though
Adobe Animate isn't being EOL'ed.
Petition to open source Flash
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Re: Petition to open source Flash
#172No no no no NO. It's time to get rid of Flash. Open-sourcing will make it live forever. Flash has very little to offer that is not at this point duplicated (or improved upon) by others. It's also woefully insecure. "Many eyes make all bugs shallow" will only work for the most trivial bugs in the most common code paths. Plenty of vulnerabilities will remain. In open source, they'll be even easier for attackers to find…
I went to the Github page specifically to vote against this petition ... Using the star is more of a bookmark to me but it certainly doesn't provide a way to down vote the idea.
Re: Petition to open source Flash
#173Earlier quoted context omitted.
The issue with a plugin architecture is that it makes it difficult to compete. There essentially will come a pool of plugins which are expected to be installed on every user's machine, & without standardization or open source implementations you'll end up with 1 plugin being used on any base browser as opposed to different versions on each browser In theory we could create a basic browser with various HTML/JS/CSS spe…
Speaking as a clueless user; closed source plugins, sooner or later, go away. Which is pretty painful. In the interim, the big grief-causers are usually closed source plugins that crash the host. Open source plugins cause a lot less grief. Typically they don't have a feature I want. Often for legal reasons and not technical, or because a proprietary vendor is fighting back (eg; video patents the first case, Skype pro…
Apple had nothing to do with this.
Re: Petition to open source Flash
#174Again. From my game dev days, the people that really lose (over and over) are the artists . Millions of hours have been sunk into laying out vector graphics with the Flash IDE. Code I understand should eventually be tossed away, but, not art . I guess staring at millions of beautiful vector timelined illustrations changed my opinion - but it is art to me. And like books, I think its a sin to toss. I hope the artists…
That's not going away, though. Adobe Animate isn't being EOL'ed.
Hopefully! However, I doubt Adobe will continue flash IDE support - while taking down the flash browser plugin. I expect an announcement soon.
Re: Petition to open source Flash
#175Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ten of thousands of games are created every year.
Tens of thousands of books are written each year. Tens of thousands of songs are recorded each year. Etc. This is an absurd line of reasoning. People get permission to build Commodore 64 clones, for retro computing preservation, and Hacker News says that's great. Someone requests similar permission for Flash, and now we're upset about the notion of a proprietary codebase being open sourced ? Why? Because Steve Jobs s…
But! Steve Jobs says it's bad and the ycombinator folks worship him!
Re: Petition to open source Flash
#176You have to understand the source of the problem. The browsers do NOT want to support this level of plug-in since it is less secure. That is why the Unity plug-in went away, that is why ALL plugs ins are going away. Flash is still alive as AIR in mobile and desktop. But it is DEAD in browsers.
Re: Petition to open source Flash
#177No no no no NO. It's time to get rid of Flash. Open-sourcing will make it live forever. Flash has very little to offer that is not at this point duplicated (or improved upon) by others. It's also woefully insecure. "Many eyes make all bugs shallow" will only work for the most trivial bugs in the most common code paths. Plenty of vulnerabilities will remain. In open source, they'll be even easier for attackers to find…
> Flash has very little to offer that is not at this point duplicated (or improved upon) by others
How about streamable vector animation without hogging your CPU like HTML5 canvas or svg? (Zing!)
And also, authoring tools that guaranteed to work everywhere as you draw graphs.
Re: Petition to open source Flash
#178Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Flash has very little to offer that is not at this point duplicated (or improved upon) by others. Pray, tell me of a universally-supported compact interactive vector graphics animation format, with sound, in a single file. Back in the year 2000 I could send a Valentine card with an animated message that could be downloaded as an email attachment and kept forever. So, what's the improved version of that?
There are many: - (M)HTML with bundled/inlined SVG and multimedia files. - SVG with embedded multimedia files (demo: http://xn--dahlstrm-t4a.net/svg/audio/html5-audio-in-svg.svg ) - PDF with embedded multimedia files
svg is not streamable nor does complex animations well.
E.g. try make a fire or particle effect with SVG
Re: Petition to open source Flash
#179No no no no NO. It's time to get rid of Flash. Open-sourcing will make it live forever. Flash has very little to offer that is not at this point duplicated (or improved upon) by others. It's also woefully insecure. "Many eyes make all bugs shallow" will only work for the most trivial bugs in the most common code paths. Plenty of vulnerabilities will remain. In open source, they'll be even easier for attackers to find…
The security issues with Flash are due to it being closed-source. Make it open-source and a lot of the problems that lead it to being EOLed will be solved.
Nonsense! Open source things like PHP, WordPress, Apache, and Linux are attacked constantly.
Re: Petition to open source Flash
#180I can't understand why people are against open sourcing some proprietary code, why would it affect you? If you hate Flash that much you will have the opportunity to see the source code and confirm that is bad. All the open source reimplementation are incomplete, so with the opening up of Flash the open source ones could have a look (if license allows) and finish the reimplementation.
I can't believe what I'm seeing. People on HN don't want something to be open sourced? Is it opposite day?
Because it's Flash and their God Steve Jobs said that Flash was bad. It's really as simple as that.