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>Can't wait to get my refund :) I had like 0.000001 BTC in mtgox and it was worth it for the cute sticky unfoldy postcard thing I got from the Japanese court.
When did you get that? I never received such a card.
Breaking open the Mt. Gox case, part 1
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Re: Breaking open the Mt. Gox case, part 1
#42So according to the following, Vinnik was aware of the origin of bitcoins that were sold on BTC-e: > Some of the funds moved to BTC-e seem to have moved straight to internal storage rather than customer deposit addresses, hinting at a relationship between Vinnik and BTC-e. and he was stupid enough to deposit them back to his account on MtGox: > Moving coins back onto MtGox was what let us identify Vinnik, as the MtGo…
> All in all, there a strong suggestion that he participated in money laundering and was involved in the whole scheme. I don't see how this proves he had direct involvement in the scheme instead of just running a laundering service for people. This blog post mentioned he was connected to other thefts as well: >> The stolen MtGox coins were not the only stolen coins handled by Vinnik; coins stolen from Bitcoinica, Bit…
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#43Can't wait to get my refund :) It's still insane to me that MtGox never moved coins to a wallet or acknowledged the breach until long after it was too late. You would think if you have billions of dollars sitting somewhere and you realize someone is starting to take them you would, you know, do something .
> Can't wait to get my refund :) There's no chance of that, right? (Hence ":)") At the time of the MtGox implosion I was bummed to have lost a few hundred $ worth of BTC. Now I'd be very interested in recovering that balance ... in BTC.
Re: Breaking open the Mt. Gox case, part 1
#44It sounds like MtGox must have had no auditing of their wallets, or completely ineffective auditing. How did they not at least perform a simple sum of coins held by their wallets and compare it against the amount expected by their databases? Or is the attack more sophisticated than this would detect? If I were building a system like this, I'd want to run an auditing system continuously that looks for discrepancies, a…
The site was originally made for trading Magic The Gathering Online cards by one guy who later got bored and then got into Bitcoin but I have no idea and wikipedia doesn't mention if they reused any code or just the domain name itself. It's a fun piece of trivia one crypto currency guy told me and it seems to be true.
Re: Breaking open the Mt. Gox case, part 1
#45It sounds like MtGox must have had no auditing of their wallets, or completely ineffective auditing. How did they not at least perform a simple sum of coins held by their wallets and compare it against the amount expected by their databases? Or is the attack more sophisticated than this would detect? If I were building a system like this, I'd want to run an auditing system continuously that looks for discrepancies, a…
The site was originally made for trading Magic The Gathering Online cards by one guy who later got bored and then got into Bitcoin but I have no idea and wikipedia doesn't mention if they reused any code or just the domain name itself. It's a fun piece of trivia one crypto currency guy told me and it seems to be true.
Re: Breaking open the Mt. Gox case, part 1
#46This would have all been avoided if MtGox had transferred its coins to a new wallet after the 2011 breach. I guess they assumed that any attacker that got access to the private keys would have immediately emptied the wallet, and the fact that this hadn't happened proved that the private keys hadn't been compromised by the breach. I have to admit, that is a reasonable assumption. This may show the limits of the useful…
I only hear about the hackers that empty addresses and wondered if they could be more effective by slowly draining. Well now know turns out the biggest one was doing just that
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
>All in all, there a strong suggestion that he participated in money laundering and was involved in the whole scheme. Well duh, anyone involved in the Bitcoin community was very well aware of this. BTC-e has been flagrantly disregarding AML and KYC laws for it's entire existence.
Lots of people in Bitcoin hate KYC and AML laws, and consider them invasive. I am one of these people. In itself, it's not an indicator of wrongdoing.
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#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
>All in all, there a strong suggestion that he participated in money laundering and was involved in the whole scheme. Well duh, anyone involved in the Bitcoin community was very well aware of this. BTC-e has been flagrantly disregarding AML and KYC laws for it's entire existence.
Lots of people in Bitcoin hate KYC and AML laws, and consider them invasive. I am one of these people. In itself, it's not an indicator of wrongdoing.
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
The site was originally made for trading Magic The Gathering Online cards by one guy who later got bored and then got into Bitcoin but I have no idea and wikipedia doesn't mention if they reused any code or just the domain name itself. It's a fun piece of trivia one crypto currency guy told me and it seems to be true.
IIRC the site was written in PHP and it was a miracle it didn't get hacked earlier (or, now it seems, it did, but the hackers kept the site running to maximize the heist). https://gist.github.com/alainmeier/9319451
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Re: Breaking open the Mt. Gox case, part 1
#50So according to the following, Vinnik was aware of the origin of bitcoins that were sold on BTC-e: > Some of the funds moved to BTC-e seem to have moved straight to internal storage rather than customer deposit addresses, hinting at a relationship between Vinnik and BTC-e. and he was stupid enough to deposit them back to his account on MtGox: > Moving coins back onto MtGox was what let us identify Vinnik, as the MtGo…
> All in all, there a strong suggestion that he participated in money laundering and was involved in the whole scheme. I don't see how this proves he had direct involvement in the scheme instead of just running a laundering service for people. This blog post mentioned he was connected to other thefts as well: >> The stolen MtGox coins were not the only stolen coins handled by Vinnik; coins stolen from Bitcoinica, Bit…