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Sperm Count Dropping in Western World

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Re: Sperm Count Dropping in Western World

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Post by accountyaccount »

jostmey wrote: post #27
mgberlin wrote: post #15

I've personally become concerned recently with the abundance of BPA and it's effect on the endocrine system of men. Between disposable water bottles, aluminum can liners, and food stored in plastic containers, there's a huge amount of exposure to this endocrine disruptor. The article doesn't mention it in particular, but I think it's worth being cautious over.

I don't think it is juts about BPA, but a whole myriad of "chemicals" that we're surrounding ourselves with each day.

There are even chemicals in our brains!

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Post by whalesalad »

Are cell phones in our pockets to blame? The effects of radiofrequency electromagnetic radiation on sperm function. – https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27601711

More info here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27076112

Also here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26949865

And here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26206279

Here too: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24982785

More fuel for the fire: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24927498

Re: Sperm Count Dropping in Western World

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Post by andreime »

Fishman343 wrote: post #21
Reason077 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Environmental pollutants? Endocrine disruptors? Internet porn?! Most of us are probably eating healthier than 40 years ago (Heart disease is way down), so not sure it's diet. Unless of course its all the chemicals and contaminants that we're getting with our food...

You say eating healthier, but obesity and diabetes are at all time highs in most of the western world, I don't think it's that cut and dry.

We're also a lot more sedentary. I am convinced without being able to produce proof, that this is the biggest problem - the lack of physical work.

I used to believe we eat shit, but my ancestors were really poor and basically ate just a few food types most of their life. I think I've come a long way and am convinced that, even if I were to eat a very occasional McDonalds, it'd still be eating a lot better. It's a lot more diverse and that really makes a difference. Don't know about you but I very rarely eat the same thing two days in a row.

Re: Sperm Count Dropping in Western World

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Post by colanderman »

jostmey wrote: post #33

-- Sorry for the comment -- I've deleted it

Yeah, really sucks to be someone who can't or chooses not to have children, or who chooses to adopt. Dead ends on the tree of life, the lot of us. /s

Please reevaluate your respect for others, if you view childrearing from your own loins as the only means of being a valuable human being.

Re: Sperm Count Dropping in Western World

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whalesalad wrote: post #42

Are cell phones in our pockets to blame? The effects of radiofrequency electromagnetic radiation on sperm function. – https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27601711 More info here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27076112 Also here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26949865 And here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26206279 Here too: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24982785 More fuel for the fire: https:…

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Re: Sperm Count Dropping in Western World

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Post by jostmey »

it_learnses wrote: post #39
jostmey wrote: post #33

-- Sorry for the comment -- I've deleted it

And if you do leave something behind in the future, to what end are you doing it? You are still dead.

Do you have a kid? A kid is of course a distinct individual, but it is uncanny how much of you just "naturally" appears in them

Re: Sperm Count Dropping in Western World

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Post by rsync »

Unless this is adjusted for activity levels (western folks are extremely sedentary - especially in the US) and weight I am not sure it is interesting. Obesity is negatively correlated with male fertility[1] and 3/4 of the US is obese or overweight[2].

[1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3521747/

[2] https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-statisti...

Re: Sperm Count Dropping in Western World

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Post by nashashmi »

bcg1 wrote: post #43

Why are we to assume this is a bad thing, or that it is even something that won't be sorted out by natural selection?

I'm upset with your question. Technology is moving faster than the pace of evolution! We know very little of how evolution works to be certain we will adapt.

Besides, why are you so keen on rendering the people who were not born before the age of current tech as a class unfit in our current context?

Re: Sperm Count Dropping in Western World

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Post by mgberlin »

jostmey wrote: post #33

-- Sorry for the comment -- I've deleted it

This mindset is extremely disturbing, that the only way to make a difference in the world is to reproduce. Really if you want to make the biggest impact on the most people, you won't bring any more consumers into the world.
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