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Re: Show HN: AI Grant – Non-profit, distributed AI research lab

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Post by nl »

minimaxir wrote: post #5

From the application: > What's your background? In particular anything that would help convince us that you're actually capable of finishing your project. > Project description: Describe your project, including: where you got the idea, how you think others might use it, and how it is new/different/better than what already exists. This is the main answer we use to judge applications. These questions make the grant see…

The people who are skilled enough at machine learning/deep learning to receive the grant would be able to be employed at any relevant company for their research.

This isn't completely true. There are plenty of smart people who eg do Kaggle, and don't have the 300+ hours to invest in twiddling ensembles to actually win but do have the skills and knowledge to develop something new.

Re: Show HN: AI Grant – Non-profit, distributed AI research lab

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Post by petters »

orthoganol wrote: post #27

IMO what would actually drive AI breakthroughs is to support people on a large time scale so they can quit their applied AI/ NLP/ Computer Vision jobs and focus full time on their moonshot research endeavor. For example, I work in AI, and this is not a useful proposal for me, in particular. But I do have at least a couple crazy AI ideas that might take > a year to develop, and I can imagine nothing better than a gran…

Obviously I have no clue about your personal situation, but many people working in AI could afford to take a year-long sabbatical after a while. But sure, such a grant may be useful. Most current grants require you to work in academia.

Re: Show HN: AI Grant – Non-profit, distributed AI research lab

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Post by nl »

Eridrus wrote: post #17

You know, I might have misread what you're offering here when I submitted an application a minute ago, but what I was really hoping was that you would be able to put me in touch with researchers in the field who would answer my emails about whether the research topics I was considering were interesting and promising or not and could help me navigate the academic publication process. The monetary pieces of this grant…

https://www.reddit.com/r/MachineLearning/ isn't terrible for this kind of thing. There are plenty of pretty good researchers who are looking for something to do (other than complain about NIPS reviews)

Re: Show HN: AI Grant – Non-profit, distributed AI research lab

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Post by nl »

BrianMingus wrote: post #2

See also: Latently Deep Learning Certificate https://github.com/Latently/DeepLearningCertificate Free access to ridiculous amounts of hardware and the opportunity to implement important and hot scientific papers and conduct original research in deep learning.

There's a "submit" link - perhaps you should try that?

Re: Show HN: AI Grant – Non-profit, distributed AI research lab

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Post by [deleted] »

orthoganol wrote: post #27

IMO what would actually drive AI breakthroughs is to support people on a large time scale so they can quit their applied AI/ NLP/ Computer Vision jobs and focus full time on their moonshot research endeavor. For example, I work in AI, and this is not a useful proposal for me, in particular. But I do have at least a couple crazy AI ideas that might take > a year to develop, and I can imagine nothing better than a gran…

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Re: Show HN: AI Grant – Non-profit, distributed AI research lab

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Post by valueprop »

tkalil wrote: post #25

I'm serving as an advisor to a philanthropist interested in applying AI and ML to scientific and societal challenges - let me know if you'd like to chat! Tom Kalil https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-kalil-a581/

Tom, would you please add your email in HN profile? LinkedIn doesn't allow to connect.

Re: Show HN: AI Grant – Non-profit, distributed AI research lab

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Post by TuringNYC »

orthoganol wrote: post #27

IMO what would actually drive AI breakthroughs is to support people on a large time scale so they can quit their applied AI/ NLP/ Computer Vision jobs and focus full time on their moonshot research endeavor. For example, I work in AI, and this is not a useful proposal for me, in particular. But I do have at least a couple crazy AI ideas that might take > a year to develop, and I can imagine nothing better than a gran…

Single Payer Healthcare would accomplish this for a wide swath of the US population for sure. I have savings, our family is willing to use savings to pursue risky projects, but we are not willing to go for long periods of time w/o decent healthcare and we cannot self-fund any decent family plan for extended periods.

Re: Show HN: AI Grant – Non-profit, distributed AI research lab

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Post by TeMPOraL »

orthoganol wrote: post #29
davedx wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you considered academia?

Oh God no. The last thing in the world I want is to all of a sudden have to be publishing a ton of marginally useful crap or spend time reviewing others' marginally useful crap being sold as contributions because they have to publish. Or working with students. Why? I already have my big ideas, I have enough education and experience in the field to do stuff on my own, I just need a lot of time to hack on stuff and exp…

Precisely this.

And let me use this opportunity to pull out this gem I found once from my quotes file:

  "What one wants is to be able to talk with a diverse club of smart
  people, arrange to do short one-​​off research projects and
  simulations, publish papers or capture intellectual property
  quickly and easily, and move on to another
  conversation. Quickly. Easily. For a living. Can’t do that in
  industry. Can’t do that in the Academy. Yet in my experience,
  scientists and engineers all want it. Maybe even a few
  mathematicians and social scientists do, too."

  -- Bill Tozier, Diverse themes observed at GECCO 2006

Re: Show HN: AI Grant – Non-profit, distributed AI research lab

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Post by EGreg »

TuringNYC wrote: post #37
orthoganol wrote: post #27

IMO what would actually drive AI breakthroughs is to support people on a large time scale so they can quit their applied AI/ NLP/ Computer Vision jobs and focus full time on their moonshot research endeavor. For example, I work in AI, and this is not a useful proposal for me, in particular. But I do have at least a couple crazy AI ideas that might take > a year to develop, and I can imagine nothing better than a gran…

Single Payer Healthcare would accomplish this for a wide swath of the US population for sure. I have savings, our family is willing to use savings to pursue risky projects, but we are not willing to go for long periods of time w/o decent healthcare and we cannot self-fund any decent family plan for extended periods.

Are there any cryptocurrencies that have UBI built in?

Like groupcurrency.org?

Re: Show HN: AI Grant – Non-profit, distributed AI research lab

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Post by ccozan »

orthoganol wrote: post #27

IMO what would actually drive AI breakthroughs is to support people on a large time scale so they can quit their applied AI/ NLP/ Computer Vision jobs and focus full time on their moonshot research endeavor. For example, I work in AI, and this is not a useful proposal for me, in particular. But I do have at least a couple crazy AI ideas that might take > a year to develop, and I can imagine nothing better than a gran…

You are definitively not alone in this. I know my ideas are kind of crazy, they can work but to validate the research at least one year would be needed. Another one to build a prototype, maybe more to create a commercial product. Which means the whole effort could be about 1M of USD or euro, whatever.

But nobody finances this. Maybe an investor reads this understands that AI is not the next social network or JS framework. It is the pinnacle of human invention and requires that amount of financing.

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