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Lawsuit: Sexual harassment ‘victim’ was San Francisco business rival in disguise

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Re: Lawsuit: Sexual harassment ‘victim’ was San Francisco business rival in disguise

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Honestly, this doesn't surprise me; seems fairly indicative of the culture. Yes, this is an extreme case, but who hasn't seen things like leaving 1-star reviews of competitors, or frivolous complaints to consume competitors' resources?

This is what happens when a culture encourages people to use any opportunity to get ahead - and it's those with real claims that suffer from this crying wolf.

Re: Lawsuit: Sexual harassment ‘victim’ was San Francisco business rival in disguise

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Incidents like this and that Rolling Stone article do so much damage to real victims of sexual harassment/assault.

Part of the problem is that the penalties for doing this are usually just civil. I imagine people's behavior would be very different if the next person who manufactured an allegation to attack a business competitor got a twenty-year (or even two-year) jail sentence.

Re: Lawsuit: Sexual harassment ‘victim’ was San Francisco business rival in disguise

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What will happen to this Hill guy?

He'll end up paying millions of dollars in damages most likely not covered by insurance and might be subject to criminal charges if the State decides to prosecute

Wow, sounds about right. Hopefully, set up as a good example for people who prepare to follow his suit.

Re: Lawsuit: Sexual harassment ‘victim’ was San Francisco business rival in disguise

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Wow. Hill reportedly posted the false allegations on Hatena from his actual Comcast IP address. That was just so stupid. Not even using a bloody VPN service, let alone Tor.

Most likely he didn't expect a lawsuit, stupid nonetheless.

And admittedly, Uzzaman obtained cooperation of both Hatena (ordered by a Japanese judge) and Comcast (subpoenaed). That was no mean feat.

Re: Lawsuit: Sexual harassment ‘victim’ was San Francisco business rival in disguise

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Incidents like this and that Rolling Stone article do so much damage to real victims of sexual harassment/assault.

We don't know if there's an "incident like this". This is alleged by one side in a lawsuit. Hasn't been proven. I would still give the victim in this instance the benefit of the doubt.

Edit: why is it all about "accusation is not the same as guilt" when a supposed anonymous woman accuses man A, but when man A accuses man B of staging the whole thing, HN believes it 100%? I apologize to fragile HN readers who see me saying we have courts to figure out these things, that HN is not a courtroom, and they get offended and downvote me.

Re: Lawsuit: Sexual harassment ‘victim’ was San Francisco business rival in disguise

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> Nevertheless, the threat of defamation suits can stifle women from coming forward, even if they have legitimate accusations of sexual harassment, she said. The accused must usually be given the benefit of doubt in cases of anonymous allegations without any corroborating evidence. But cases like these should not be used to cast doubt on the motive/credibility of women brave enough to risk their identity and careers…

> The accused must usually be given the benefit of doubt in cases of anonymous allegations without any corroborating evidence. The accused must always be given the benefit of the doubt in case of any allegations without corroborating evidence. This current trend of "anyone accused of sexual harassment is guilty unless proven innocent" is not justice.

Careful with that kind if talk here. In this kind of social political climate logic does not always prevail. Just go look at some past HN threads regarding sexual harassment.

The sheer number of people who react emotionally to allegations of sexual harassment is truly astounding. All rationality goes out the window with men throwing themselves over each other to proclaim "I BELIEVE YOU" instead of asking for the least bit of corroborating evidence.

Re: Lawsuit: Sexual harassment ‘victim’ was San Francisco business rival in disguise

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Incidents like this and that Rolling Stone article do so much damage to real victims of sexual harassment/assault.

Yeah, and also a huge damage to the lives of the people falsely accused of sexual assault, like Brian Banks (5 years in jail), Lawrence McKinney (31 years in jail) and many others who will never get their time back.
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