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MS Paint is here to stay

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Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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If you don't trust Microsoft and it's Store, then you shouldn't use Windows in the first place.

It's a perfectly good OS with a bunch of junk installed, whether by Microsoft, a OEM, or both. Working around the crap has been the norm for as long as I can remember.

Some of us consider the telemetry and forced updates "junk" that disqualifies it from being a "perfectly good OS" since you cannot uninstall them and need to keep fighting the OS to keep them off.

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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I don't understand the shock here? Large corporations don't want users installing random apps. I don't see why an NHS laptop, for example, should have Bejewelled installed, or some dodgy app which gives permissions to the user's drives, and uploads files. Similarly, though admittedly not a problem in the same way with Windows store apps, to Chrome extensions. Those working in secretive environments with naive users s…

> I don't understand the shock here? Large corporations don't want users installing random apps. Perhaps we should all go back to mainframes and green-screen dumb terminals? That's why "the shock". I understand the security issues - they are absolutely valid in today's world. But the whole reason the PC came about, was because it moved the computing resources from some sacrosanct computing "temple" (complete with aco…

What came before Visicalc? My understanding was prior to that there were only custom build "finance" applications which were rather inflexible.

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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This thread shows clearly the negativity around everything Microsoft does, especially if you compare to other technology companies. Apple deprecates some API or removes a feature? "It's the future, you have to adapt, etc" Microsoft deprecates a toy program made 25 years ago, but still offers the option of downloading it for free? "How dare they, I want it in the base install, etc"

Microsoft has a serious and ongoing PR crisis, and not just for historical reasons (90s antitrust, etc). There are undoubtedly many highly intelligent, well-meaning people working there, but the ongoing occurrence of highly-publicized customer screwage - such as the aggressive telemetry in W10 - and the ongoing security negligence (e.g. in failing to properly audit & fully close SMB RCEs) seems to totally undermine a…

At some point, it stops being isolated incidents and starts being a pattern of decision-making. IMO, Microsoft has a crisis in the way that Windows is managed, and part of that is that the C-Level level of the company either no longer cares about Windows, or actually supports the decisions that are made. You may have thought that at some point the reputational damage caused by the way that telemetry was handled, or the fall-out from the unethical Windows 10 upgrade process, would have triggered action by the CEO. In both cases, nothing.

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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It's slower to start than Paint (on this laptop at least), and I can't see any way to import an image using a scanner using it (one of my main use cases for Paint). And why on earth does the menu icon in Paint 3D look like a folder icon?

Use Paint.net (fast load) or The Gimp (works very fine with scaners, but don't forget to enable single window mode)

I've used both, and like Paint.NET for more complex work, but both have too much UI clutter for the simple tasks I mentioned...

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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I think it's a good thing that Microsoft is reducing the size of their base OS and decoupling many of the apps from the Windows release cycle. It definitely does, however, feel like the end of a era.

Hopefully they continue by removing: Candy Crush, "Get Office", Minecraft, ... and all other trash that gets installed by default.

They're not bundled with the OS. They're installed automatically after Windows installation is complete.

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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Thanks. Pretty sure that it is not a Win7 version, your binary is from 2001 and only 100kB. In that case I'll stick with Microsoft Calculator Plus from 2005. Now if you need a binary of that... then I can post a link for you. :) Actually here you go: http://www.vimalin.com/download/CalcPlus.zip The installer in the zip is signed by Microsoft. Found your version :p Just bumped into my calc archives and did a binary co…

Wow, XP?! Well, I still like it, and it's still better than the Windows 10 one :)

But then since it was from xp and not win7 and you didn't know that, does that mean that your calc.exe is something you downloaded off some random site on the net trusting that it didn't contain malware?

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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Wow, XP?! Well, I still like it, and it's still better than the Windows 10 one :)

But then since it was from xp and not win7 and you didn't know that, does that mean that your calc.exe is something you downloaded off some random site on the net trusting that it didn't contain malware?

Nope. I just have a crap memory.

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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Yes. http://uk.businessinsider.com/read-the-bloomberg-chats-that-...

Glorious. Best part of the article is he switches to using the phone at the end, which was apparently recorded or transcripted as well anyway.

Have a look at The Spider Network by David Enrich. Real eye opener.

But a long way from MS Paint.

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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Why? There isn't for the other apps they have on there.

ok, then i assume it's one EULA for everything in the store, that customers now choose to install themselves and is not part of windows. ie. it is a new product. otherwise, what is the point of moving it?

It's part of a bigger trend that MS is engaged in to move most of their apps to the App Store: Mail, Feedback Hub, Calendar, Maps, etc, are all in the Store. It makes updating one of the apps separate from updating the OS (and Windows Update). This is a net positive move for consumers, I think.
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