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Crack WPA/WPA2 Wi-Fi Routers with Aircrack-Ng and Hashcat

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Re: Crack WPA/WPA2 Wi-Fi Routers with Aircrack-Ng and Hashcat

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There was a nice comic/picture of this. I tend to follow it. Basically using 3-4 short words as a phrase instead of random characters. You can toss special characters inbetween/before/after. They are also much easier to remember. Password "FoolMeOnce!ShameOnMe" for example.

For completeness sake, this is probably the comic you are referencing: https://xkcd.com/936/

Nice, yes that was the one, thanks.

Re: Crack WPA/WPA2 Wi-Fi Routers with Aircrack-Ng and Hashcat

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post #76

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There was a nice comic/picture of this. I tend to follow it. Basically using 3-4 short words as a phrase instead of random characters. You can toss special characters inbetween/before/after. They are also much easier to remember. Password "FoolMeOnce!ShameOnMe" for example.

But you've gone and picked only one preexisting phrase, instead of independently-random words. That cripples the security of your password. Making a phrase is okay, but you have to start with actually-random words.

Well, it was an example, but I agree. For everything that I can I use keepass with better autogenerated random passwords, but for things like home WiFi and others that I may have to type in manually I'll use a phrase like this. A more random phrase is certainly more secure.

Re: Crack WPA/WPA2 Wi-Fi Routers with Aircrack-Ng and Hashcat

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To the script kiddies out there who read this: Do not try this on others wifi. It is a crime in the USA to crack network routers. Although the chance of you getting caught is low, better be safe than sorry.

It is possible to catch 4 way handshakes completely passively. You're not hacking into anything, simply observing. It's not illegal to receive signals on an unlicensed band with stock equipment

> It's not illegal to receive signals on an unlicensed band with stock equipment

But my neighbors would still be pretty miffed, and would likely have legal recourse, if I passively captured their EM emissions in the 390-700nm band through their bedroom windows at night on a regular basis.

Re: Crack WPA/WPA2 Wi-Fi Routers with Aircrack-Ng and Hashcat

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Presumably you want to reply to DNS requests for a hostname for your captive portal. You might try to just use a raw ip address, but then you can't use https. So then you have the problem that you can't just reply with a fake answer for other domains due to caching. E.g. Windows caches negative responses for 5 minutes, which would be a pretty bad experience for your customers. I guess you might be able to just fail t…

Aside from custom root certs being installed, https is out either way, not only with IP address, right? HSTS makes that even more of a problem, and pinning makes even the custom root cert a problem. Captive portals seem like an increasingly fragile idea, except that OSes increasingly intervene appropriately.

Keep neverssl.com in your pocket when you encounter one of these older captive portals that try to redirect Google and you see and HSTS error.

Re: Crack WPA/WPA2 Wi-Fi Routers with Aircrack-Ng and Hashcat

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> but W/E it's HN Would you please simply type "whatever", instead of this "W/E" nonsense? Considering the amount of 8+ character adjectives you used, you clearly aren't trying to be less verbose.

You understood him perfectly well, what exactly is your criticism? If he agrees to comply to your arbitrary standards of style, only to say the exact same thing, will you agree to "please simply" refrain from being obnoxious for no reason?

I did not understand perfectly well.

Understanding for me required a Google search. It's quite a nuisance for me to have to google an uncommon abbreviation for one of the most common words in my native language.

Re: Crack WPA/WPA2 Wi-Fi Routers with Aircrack-Ng and Hashcat

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Nowadays most routers I've seen come with a pre-shared key that's something like 20 chars long. It's been the case with Comcast + Verizon for a while now. Not sure about AT&T. Still might work 10% of the time though.

Some regional bias here. Most of Asia (so most of the world) use digits only for their wifi password. Lack of fluency with Latin characters was not a big concern in the original implementation. That should be fixed with WPA3

Why does that matter? 15 character digits-only password is impossible to crack really.

It's all about the length really.

Re: Crack WPA/WPA2 Wi-Fi Routers with Aircrack-Ng and Hashcat

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post #104

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> but W/E it's HN Would you please simply type "whatever", instead of this "W/E" nonsense? Considering the amount of 8+ character adjectives you used, you clearly aren't trying to be less verbose.

You understood him perfectly well, what exactly is your criticism? If he agrees to comply to your arbitrary standards of style, only to say the exact same thing, will you agree to "please simply" refrain from being obnoxious for no reason?

> arbitrary standards of style

Spelling words correctly is not "arbitrary", it's conventional.

Re: Crack WPA/WPA2 Wi-Fi Routers with Aircrack-Ng and Hashcat

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WEP, WPA, WPA2... why keep reinventing the same wheel? Each new iteration inevitable turns out to be less-than-perfect and keep adding more and more complexity and overhead - for one, join/leave times keep increasing, up to a point where we have a separate standard (802.11r) just to get back pre-WPA roaming speeds (at cost of even more protocol complexity overhead). Here's crazy idea: Why not run open network + IPSEC…

IPSec and OpenVPN are complex like hell and not very well supported across OSes (think of the UI too). This is why I'm waiting for Wireguard.io, it looks like a step in a good direction.

I've been experimenting with this exact kind of network setup -- open WiFi that only allows packets to and from the WireGuard endpoint. The nice part is that it means I just have WireGuard on all the time, and because it roams, when I connect to a different WiFi networks, I remain on my home network automatically. I've also been putting my actual wlan0 interface in a separate namespace, isolated from real things. This way there's no chance of leaking data: https://www.wireguard.com/netns/#the-new-namespace-solution
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