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Re: Ask HN: How do you find clients when you have no network and can only do remote?

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Post by mirap »

Brajeshwar wrote: post #60

There are pretty good Remote Job sources these days, try them. There are quite a bit of contract works too, which you can start off with. Also, do not forget to walk into your area's agencies, they usually work with freelancers/contractors. - https://www.workingnomads.co/jobs - https://remoteworkhub.com/remote-jobs/ - https://www.crossover.com/ - https://remote.com/ - https://weworkremotely.com/ - https://getbetterlu…

Ad https://getbetterluck.com/ - usual struggle - when I search for "UX", it also shows job offers containting word "linux".

Re: Ask HN: How do you find clients when you have no network and can only do remote?

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Post by philip1209 »

throwawaybbq1 wrote: post #100
philip1209 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Co-founder of Moonlight here - thanks for the mention. It costs nothing to contractors, and you set your own rate when you want to work on projects. Definitely recommend that OP signs up. Fun story: The contractor who wrote the code for the Moonlight blog was in a similar position as OP. Hit a deer with his car, and insurance didn't cover it. Needed extra money quickly. He signed up for Moonlight and did a project in…

Interesting idea. Do you have a mechanism where a moonlighter(?) doesn't get matched in a specific geography, industry or set of companies? Presumably your workers are being employed somewhere and not all employers are friendly towards moonlighting. Also, I'm curious if you have researched the legal framework around moonlighting coupled with non-competes. My limited understanding was it is very state-based. NY, CT ar…

We provide a platform for matching and payments. The contractor and the company sign a standard contractor agreement with each other. In it, the contractor agrees that they have no pre-existing obligations or commitments that interfere with the agreement. So, it's up to the contractor to ensure that any existing contracts do not interfere with the consulting agreement prior to signing it.

Moonlighters choose which projects they want to work on, so companies don't see them unless the moonlighters explicitly want to work with that company.

Re: Ask HN: How do you find clients when you have no network and can only do remote?

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Post by philip1209 »

andriussev wrote: post #103
Mz wrote: post #16

Potential alternative to Upwork that sounds better: http://gigworks.blogspot.com/2017/04/moonlight-work-for-soft...

I applied to Moonlight but never heard anything back, sadly (except for marketing emails). I suppose that either they have much more developers than contractors, they only work with US people or my skills aren't needed :( (mostly PHP/Laravel backend work with various frontend skills and some experience in other languages)

Hi,

You're correct - we have more contractors than developers right now. Sorry if you haven't been matched yet - if you send me an email (philip at moonlightwork.com) we can feature you on next week's Orbit [1] email to clients.

The process has largely been manual with spreadsheets until now, but soon you will be able to log in and browse all open projects.

Over half of our projects have been completed by a contractor outside the USA.

[1] https://www.moonlightwork.com/orbit

Re: Ask HN: How do you find clients when you have no network and can only do remote?

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Post by philip1209 »

throwaway847261 wrote: post #52
Mz wrote: post #16

Potential alternative to Upwork that sounds better: http://gigworks.blogspot.com/2017/04/moonlight-work-for-soft...

The problem with Moonlight is lack of companies on it. The large amount of developers on there compared to the number of projects and the lack of a real site (the app is just Google forms and emails) make this site feel like a waste of time. I really wanted to like Moonlight, but I think it has some issue right now.

You're right. During startup school [1], they pushed us to do things manually - which helped us to iterate quickly and learn the process. However, we've hit the limits of what we can do manually right now, so we are in the process of building out an app. (We've even been hiring moonlighters to help us out). We plan to launch the app in the next month, and with that - we should be able to scale the number of projects.

If you're looking to be featured more prominently - shoot me an email (philip at moonlightwork.com) and we'll feature you on the next issue of Orbit [2] going out to clients on Monday.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abtHadERzXU&t=27m

[2] https://www.moonlightwork.com/orbit

Re: Ask HN: How do you find clients when you have no network and can only do remote?

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Post by stan_hn »

smithsmith wrote: post #107
penpapersw wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a resume, sorry for the miswording. But my wife values privacy and so isn't comfortable with me just posting it up here on HN willy nilly. And although I am comfortable with it, I feel obligated to respect her wishes.

You may have a good reason to not disclose your identity, but how do you plan to get paid. Do you want to get paid anonymously in bitcoins or you just want to provide your identity to the future employer only which does not make sense to disclose privacy only to your future employer. I am confused here.

The right option for that is http://www.xbtfreelancer.com/?ref=40081 . You get paid in bitcoin only. You can post any kind of job. It is safer because the site has a built-in escrow system.

Re: Ask HN: How do you find clients when you have no network and can only do remote?

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Post by Brajeshwar »

mirap wrote: post #111
Brajeshwar wrote: post #60

There are pretty good Remote Job sources these days, try them. There are quite a bit of contract works too, which you can start off with. Also, do not forget to walk into your area's agencies, they usually work with freelancers/contractors. - https://www.workingnomads.co/jobs - https://remoteworkhub.com/remote-jobs/ - https://www.crossover.com/ - https://remote.com/ - https://weworkremotely.com/ - https://getbetterlu…

Ad https://getbetterluck.com/ - usual struggle - when I search for "UX", it also shows job offers containting word "linux".

We're working on and will keep improving the app. Try being a bit more specific with your search keywords, permute-combine keywords, use the "Setting" for a more granular control of what shows up.

Anyway, that same "linux" posts also has "UX" and that might be the reason for your result.

Do you remember which post was the one that you got the wrong one?

Re: Ask HN: How do you find clients when you have no network and can only do remote?

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Post by lukasm »

Brajeshwar wrote: post #60

There are pretty good Remote Job sources these days, try them. There are quite a bit of contract works too, which you can start off with. Also, do not forget to walk into your area's agencies, they usually work with freelancers/contractors. - https://www.workingnomads.co/jobs - https://remoteworkhub.com/remote-jobs/ - https://www.crossover.com/ - https://remote.com/ - https://weworkremotely.com/ - https://getbetterlu…

https://github.com/lukasz-madon/awesome-remote-job
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