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Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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Post by wila »

Jaruzel wrote: post #258
wila wrote: post #246

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Thanks. Pretty sure that it is not a Win7 version, your binary is from 2001 and only 100kB. In that case I'll stick with Microsoft Calculator Plus from 2005. Now if you need a binary of that... then I can post a link for you. :) Actually here you go: http://www.vimalin.com/download/CalcPlus.zip The installer in the zip is signed by Microsoft. Found your version :p Just bumped into my calc archives and did a binary co…

Wow, XP?! Well, I still like it, and it's still better than the Windows 10 one :)

Agreed, turns out that it was the one I was using myself too. Until I just swapped it out for calculator plus. The only issue I had was that I wasn't able to setup a keyboard shortcut (Ctrl+Alt+C), but just figured that one out.

Turns out that if you create a shortcut via the send To "Desktop (Create shortcut)" that you can then set it up a keyboard shortcut via properties. As long as your shortcut is on the desktop or in the menu then the keyboard shortcut works. Yay.

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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Post by praneshp »

mavrc wrote: post #252
malekpour wrote: post #206

There are much better free [web based] alternatives for WordPad, Paint and Notepad these days and I prefer to use those over these obsolete applications. These are not useful applications, we just like them because of nostalgia. I doubt if Microsoft is removing Paint because of OS base image size. It should be more about source code maintenance and UI consistency. Both WordPad and Paint got ribbon user interface for…

> These are not useful applications, we just like them because of nostalgia. On the contrary; I have Paint.net and GIMP installed, I've experimented with both of them, and I still don't have a tool as quick and easy for marking up a screenshot as Paint is. At that singular task it is superb. I create a lot of training material, so marking up screenshots is a significant component of my job. This will make my job hard…

Asking because I'm unclear: While you have to go to the Windows Store for getting the app, it is still local after installation, right? In that case, how does it make your job harder? Installation time will be a trivial fraction of the use time, no?

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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Post by daemin »

skrebbel wrote: post #76
OkGoDoIt wrote: post #72

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Additionally you can't download apps off the windows store unless you sign up for /into a Microsoft account, which is a much bigger pain than simply downloading the first app you find searching on Google. Also my corporate windows 10 laptop has the entire window store and modern app infrastructure disabled, meaning I would not be able to access MS Paint.

> Also my corporate windows 10 laptop has the entire window store and modern app infrastructure disabled Wow that's... What? For all its warts, the Windows Store is a secure app delivery platform. Doesn't disabling it merely encourage downloading zipped executables from sleazy unencrypted websites?

For what it's worth at work we had the same thing when moving from Windows 7 to Windows 10. Though they got rid of the restriction when people bitched about not being able to run the default Windows calculator.

Since a lot of us are programmers we were effectively allowed to install anything else normal that we wanted, but for some reason metro applications were disabled.

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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Post by basch »

taspeotis wrote: post #74
OkGoDoIt wrote: post #72

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Additionally you can't download apps off the windows store unless you sign up for /into a Microsoft account, which is a much bigger pain than simply downloading the first app you find searching on Google. Also my corporate windows 10 laptop has the entire window store and modern app infrastructure disabled, meaning I would not be able to access MS Paint.

I have downloaded free apps from the Windows Store without an account twice in the past month. These are both "desktop bridge" applications and not UWP apps so perhaps that is the difference. They were both free. I was preparing to sign in after clicking "Get" but ... it just worked.

this is a key people are ignoring. by moving the win32 mspaint from a native file on the filesystem to app-v/Centennial, it will be able to run on non-x86 hardware with emulation. in two years if Windows 10 S and Qualcomm dominate, having legacy apps available in the store will be a bonus not a burden. it will be similar to the OSX/Rosetta days.

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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Post by loco5niner »

toxican wrote: post #210
etatoby wrote: post #183

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Not if the entire App and Windows Store system is disabled per corporate policy and/or firewall.

That's not really MS's fault then, is it? If IT doesn't want you installing apps, that's on them.

It's MS's fault because paint should continue to be included as part of the base install.

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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Post by Tenobrus »

etatoby wrote: post #204
carlosrg wrote: post #154

This thread shows clearly the negativity around everything Microsoft does, especially if you compare to other technology companies. Apple deprecates some API or removes a feature? "It's the future, you have to adapt, etc" Microsoft deprecates a toy program made 25 years ago, but still offers the option of downloading it for free? "How dare they, I want it in the base install, etc"

One of the (many, many) reasons I ditched OS X after more than 10 years and went back to Linux and Windows, depending on the task at hand, is the removal of the colored Finder labels. What an inane reason, you may say. But IMHO it was one of the best features ever introduced into desktop computing. Simple, easy to see colored backgrounds that you could assign to files to organize or tag them as you saw fit. (seen/not…

That system is still there, and at the time you thought it was removed actually got some pretty nice usability and searchability upgrades. I use tags extensively to this day. They just have a slightly different appearance in the UI.

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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Post by asveikau »

basch wrote: post #265
taspeotis wrote: post #74

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I have downloaded free apps from the Windows Store without an account twice in the past month. These are both "desktop bridge" applications and not UWP apps so perhaps that is the difference. They were both free. I was preparing to sign in after clicking "Get" but ... it just worked.

this is a key people are ignoring. by moving the win32 mspaint from a native file on the filesystem to app-v/Centennial, it will be able to run on non-x86 hardware with emulation. in two years if Windows 10 S and Qualcomm dominate, having legacy apps available in the store will be a bonus not a burden. it will be similar to the OSX/Rosetta days.

This is an artificial disinction made only by their confusing policy. There is no technical reason that Store has to be a gateway for emulating x86.

And I am pretty sure for Windows RT they just compiled mspaint.exe for ARM.

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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Post by zghst »

VeejayRampay wrote: post #259
carlosrg wrote: post #154

This thread shows clearly the negativity around everything Microsoft does, especially if you compare to other technology companies. Apple deprecates some API or removes a feature? "It's the future, you have to adapt, etc" Microsoft deprecates a toy program made 25 years ago, but still offers the option of downloading it for free? "How dare they, I want it in the base install, etc"

You know the rule, Apple ALWAYS gets a pass. No matter what they do, no matter how bad they treat their customers, no matter how awful their "upgrades" are, no matter how non-configurable and locked-in their products get over time, no matter the lack of innovation for the past 5 years, they always get a pass. Deal with it, that Jobs residue works its magic for a loooooong time.

It’s their marketing team, best spin masters on the planet.

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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Post by phkahler »

013a wrote: post #245
phkahler wrote: post #241

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>> That's not really MS's fault then, is it? Yes it is. Paint has been a bundled app for decades and they have decided not to include it any more. "Available for free" is different than "comes included". Also, this whole thing looks like a big advertisement for their new Paint3D or whatever it is. They promote it in the blog and point out that it has a lot of features Paint has, and oh by the way it's free in the sto…

But corporate policies can also uninstall it. I've been on plenty of corporate or educational machines without it installed. You're trying very hard to be a victim here. It isn't optimal that it is removed from the stock OS, but its still there.

>> You're trying very hard to be a victim here.

Nope. I run Linux or OSX at home so I don't really care one way or the other. But I do see it as pushing some kind of agenda on MS part since it is a change and it did promote another program as an alternative. I see clearly in this case.

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