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Elon Musk says Mark Zuckerberg's understanding of AI is 'limited'

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Re: Elon Musk says Mark Zuckerberg's understanding of AI is 'limited'

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I question whether either of these guys have a good understanding of AI.

AI is automation, systems of automation. People could automate to the point of leading to a constant flow of horrific things happening, creating a highly efficient war machine - whether against another nation or your own people.

Re: Elon Musk says Mark Zuckerberg's understanding of AI is 'limited'

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They're talking past each other because "AI" has become a useless term.

Musk's comments are about a potential (maybe conscious) artificial super intelligence and the risks that could come from that if we enable one somehow without understanding the preconditions.

Zuckerberg is just talking about "AI" in the sense that machine learning can solve a valuable class of problems.

The super intelligence risk could be serious or not - it's hard to know since we haven't really dealt with an intelligence that wasn't created through natural selection with those biases for survival. We also don't really understand how consciousness works either.

One risk of AI is that if Musk's argument is right we won't be as 'lucky' as we were with nuclear weapons. Enriched uranium is hard to get so nuclear weapons are easier to control and hard for an individual to make. Turning on an AI or copying the code for one and spreading it would probably be easier. If it does end up being dangerous that's not a great situation.

Re: Elon Musk says Mark Zuckerberg's understanding of AI is 'limited'

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Seems this pivots on a disagreement of AI as a risk Musk seems very anxious of existential threats-- it isn't surprising he may overestimate the danger of AI It also comes off as very monkey-centric. Is it so bad if human intelligence isn't what proliferates the future? Perhaps AI is a kind of memetic evolution for our culture, evolving into a form of life which can achieve sustenance with much less waste

Elon's an open holistic thinker, his thoughts lead him to the end point of what could happen.

AI is automation, systems of automation. People could automate to the point of leading to a constant flow of horrific things happening, creating a highly efficient war machine - whether against another nation or your own people. This is likely what Elon is thinking about - other than the possibility that a real AI system is developed that is given the ability to manage resources, e.g. Ex Machina (film).

Re: Elon Musk says Mark Zuckerberg's understanding of AI is 'limited'

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Seems this pivots on a disagreement of AI as a risk Musk seems very anxious of existential threats-- it isn't surprising he may overestimate the danger of AI It also comes off as very monkey-centric. Is it so bad if human intelligence isn't what proliferates the future? Perhaps AI is a kind of memetic evolution for our culture, evolving into a form of life which can achieve sustenance with much less waste

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