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MS Paint is here to stay

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Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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Post by philtar »

SwellJoe wrote: post #141
philtar wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your complaints are stupid. You complained that cropping and resizing were difficult. When confronted by the fact that they weren't, you went to "oh it changed the defaults." Then you complain about being unable to Uninstaller it when it's uninstall process is like literally every other application. You just want to complain. Your issues are not valid and you are just spreading FUD

"When confronted by the fact that they weren't, you went to "oh it changed the defaults."" I didn't change my position on this complaint. I said the same in the initial post. Changing my defaults is shitty behavior on the part of Microsoft, and as far as I know (which is admittedly limited), they do it with every application they make. "Then you complain about being unable to Uninstaller it when it's uninstall proces…

> It is not like literally every other application. It does not appear in the Programs and Features list with an uninstall option. I googled it just to make sure I wasn't misremembering since you seem so certain, but others have the same problem. And the solutions are unpleasant: https://www.windowscentral.com/how-completely-remove-paint-3.... Are you going to try to tell me that using the command line and editing the registry is how you uninstall literally every other application

Suddenly you're an expert after complaining about oh how so difficult it is to use Paint 3D.

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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Post by _ikke_ »

wolfgke wrote: post #134
skrebbel wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Also my corporate windows 10 laptop has the entire window store and modern app infrastructure disabled Wow that's... What? For all its warts, the Windows Store is a secure app delivery platform. Doesn't disabling it merely encourage downloading zipped executables from sleazy unencrypted websites?

> For all its warts, the Windows Store is a secure app delivery platform. Doesn't disabling it merely encourage downloading zipped executables from sleazy unencrypted websites? In a corporate environment in many cases it is undesired that users install applications. So of course one disables Windows Store. Additionally one prohibits downloading zips etc. I have read of a way how in Windows one can set that files crea…

In our environment, they have enabled Software Restriction Policy to block any executable to be run, except in trusted (and read-only) locations.

That is a pretty effective way to prevent unwanted software to be installed / run.

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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Post by faeyanpiraat »

Okay so when I first heard this, I was kind of enraged, because I use paint daily for screenshots, ad-hoc cropping and stuff.

And when I tried Paint3D in the past it was garbage. Someone in this thread said that it is actually easy to crop with it, and I tried again, and yes it is actually a bearable experience, but scaling the image gives a crappy quality, so it is a no-go.

Then I got the Win+Shift+S screen clipping tool, which is awesome, it only gets the clipped screenshot into the clipboard, which is a half-assed solution, but then I remembered I got evernote, and made Win+Shift+D save the clipboard into a new note.

This way I can instantly take a screenshot in an already cropped way, and save it for future use, and Evernote can easily Annotate the image with text, or arrows, which is sufficient.

Awesomeness!

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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Post by hacker_9 »

carlosrg wrote: post #154

This thread shows clearly the negativity around everything Microsoft does, especially if you compare to other technology companies. Apple deprecates some API or removes a feature? "It's the future, you have to adapt, etc" Microsoft deprecates a toy program made 25 years ago, but still offers the option of downloading it for free? "How dare they, I want it in the base install, etc"

Microsoft owns 90% of the market, there is simply more people to complain.

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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Post by dsfyu404ed »

faeyanpiraat wrote: post #173

Okay so when I first heard this, I was kind of enraged, because I use paint daily for screenshots, ad-hoc cropping and stuff. And when I tried Paint3D in the past it was garbage. Someone in this thread said that it is actually easy to crop with it, and I tried again, and yes it is actually a bearable experience, but scaling the image gives a crappy quality, so it is a no-go. Then I got the Win+Shift+S screen clipping…

The best how to guides I've written have all been MS paint on top of screen-shots. I do it that way because the best how to guides I've seen have been written that way. It's fast and easy.

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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Post by userbinator »

carlosrg wrote: post #154

This thread shows clearly the negativity around everything Microsoft does, especially if you compare to other technology companies. Apple deprecates some API or removes a feature? "It's the future, you have to adapt, etc" Microsoft deprecates a toy program made 25 years ago, but still offers the option of downloading it for free? "How dare they, I want it in the base install, etc"

Apple deprecates some API or removes a feature? "It's the future, you have to adapt, etc" Microsoft deprecates a toy program made 25 years ago, but still offers the option of downloading it for free?

The reason a lot of people, including me, chose MS instead of Apple (or now, Google) is because of their reputation for backwards compatibility.

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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Post by userbinator »

wvenable wrote: post #27
opdahl wrote: post #11

What is, and has been great about MS Paint is that no matter what Windows machine I have been on, I know that I have had it available. No matter if it's my old grandma's computer, if I have needed to quickly do something simple with an image, MS Paint has always been there for me. Now that will no longer be the case. If I have to download and install it on the computer before I use it, then what is the point? It will…

I think it's a good thing that Microsoft is reducing the size of their base OS and decoupling many of the apps from the Windows release cycle. It definitely does, however, feel like the end of a era.

"reducing the size of their base OS" is completely irrelevant.

I don't have a Win10 mspaint.exe for comparison, but the one from XP is 336KB.

It's a damn shame that a lot of apps these days seem to be >1MB, yet are even more featureless.

If you want to talk about reducing size, there's plenty of other low-hanging fruit of more questionable utility in the OS.

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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Post by wila »

Jaruzel wrote: post #15
monochromatic wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It'll probably be worse in every way, like calc.exe in Windows 10.

Not just me then. I hated Windows 10 Calc so much, that I copied over calc.exe from Windows 7 and made the following registry change: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths\CALC.EXE (Default) C:\ \calc.exe Path C:\ Presto! Whenever you Win+R, Calc.exe - you get the Windows 7 one instead. This would work for any of the other apps listed in 'App Paths' too (or you can add your own).

Had tried to do this before and did not work. As I'm curious, just tried it again and the Win7 calc just does not want to run.

So wondering why it would work on your end. Do you have an old .net runtime on your machine perchance?

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