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MS Paint is here to stay

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Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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Post by jussij »

simonh wrote: post #144
skrebbel wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I understand, but what happens is that people will unzip programs from their Downloads folder and just run them from there.

I work in finance. Most web sites you could download an exe from are blocked, downloading exes is disabled and running installers is restricted to admin accounts by group policy. If you do get round all that and do it anyway and you're caught, theres a good chance you'll be fired. One issue is that some classes of users and locations (e.g. Trading floors) are restricted by law concerning the communications systems th…

> running installers is restricted to admin accounts by group policy.

Hence the popularity of portable apps which don't use installers. The just unzip to any folder and run.

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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Post by sundvor »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #82
hougaard wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Shift-WindowsKey+S is the new screen snipping tool. Built right into the OS.

Huh. I just tried it. A snipping interface came up and let me select a rectangle of the screen. Then, none of the following things happened: - A message telling me where the picture went. - The picture showing up on the desktop. - The picture showing up in "Documents". - The picture showing up in "Pictures". But, I was able to recover the screenshot by... opening Paint, and pasting from the clipboard! That's not a so…

If you want those things why not use Snip? 90% of my use cases involve pasting a screenshot into an editor, though, so the no nonsense win+shift+s is perfect for this.

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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Post by keithpeter »

pjc50 wrote: post #155
simonh wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I work in finance. Most web sites you could download an exe from are blocked, downloading exes is disabled and running installers is restricted to admin accounts by group policy. If you do get round all that and do it anyway and you're caught, theres a good chance you'll be fired. One issue is that some classes of users and locations (e.g. Trading floors) are restricted by law concerning the communications systems th…

Bloomberg chat, the Slack of LIBOR fixing.

With a handy built-in evidence trail complete with time stamps?

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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Post by [deleted] »

comeonnowreally wrote: post #126

Disappointing comments in this thread. Lots of worthless complaining, and scant technical talk on solutions to this barely significant 'problem'. If you want to keep the original mspaint.exe and don't want to use the Store for some reason, you can literally just copy it from any Windows 10 install media prior to RS3. Or from a running system. It's not difficult.

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Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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Post by microtheo »

OkGoDoIt wrote: post #72
opdahl wrote: post #11

What is, and has been great about MS Paint is that no matter what Windows machine I have been on, I know that I have had it available. No matter if it's my old grandma's computer, if I have needed to quickly do something simple with an image, MS Paint has always been there for me. Now that will no longer be the case. If I have to download and install it on the computer before I use it, then what is the point? It will…

Additionally you can't download apps off the windows store unless you sign up for /into a Microsoft account, which is a much bigger pain than simply downloading the first app you find searching on Google. Also my corporate windows 10 laptop has the entire window store and modern app infrastructure disabled, meaning I would not be able to access MS Paint.

You totally can. This is a misconception. And it has been that way for a long time now. Everything that is free can be downloaded without account.

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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Post by lou1306 »

carlosrg wrote: post #154

This thread shows clearly the negativity around everything Microsoft does, especially if you compare to other technology companies. Apple deprecates some API or removes a feature? "It's the future, you have to adapt, etc" Microsoft deprecates a toy program made 25 years ago, but still offers the option of downloading it for free? "How dare they, I want it in the base install, etc"

And MS Paint got laughed at for the best part of its lifecycle, and for good reasons too. But now that it's gone, everybody goes mad.

Really, if you dig deep enough you might find people decrying the demise of f'ing Clippy. Well maybe that's hyperbole, but you get my point.

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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Post by juststeve »

JoBrad wrote: post #75
juststeve wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i'm guessing there will be a new EULA to accept prior to downloading it from the store.

Why? There isn't for the other apps they have on there.

ok, then i assume it's one EULA for everything in the store, that customers now choose to install themselves and is not part of windows. ie. it is a new product. otherwise, what is the point of moving it?

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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Post by lou1306 »

aerovistae wrote: post #57
hasenj wrote: post #51

So .. what? It always struck my as a toy program (kind of like how Notepad seems like a toy text editor). When was the last time you could get anything done with MS Paint?

Uh, every single time I wanted to quickly circle something in a screenshot? Every time I wanted to quickly crop an image? Every time I wanted to draw a diagram? MS Paint has been there for me through thick and thin. Yeah, I'm not about to become a graphic artist with it, but what does that have to do with anything? And what's more, I don't know what you're on about with Notepad. I've taken more notes in Notepad than…

Snipping Tool is way better at any screenshot-related task.

And, er, you draw diagrams in Paint? Where you cannot even edit a damn text-box? [^1] Really?

[^1]: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10...

Re: MS Paint is here to stay

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Post by ygaf »

vog wrote: post #125
opdahl wrote: post #11

What is, and has been great about MS Paint is that no matter what Windows machine I have been on, I know that I have had it available. No matter if it's my old grandma's computer, if I have needed to quickly do something simple with an image, MS Paint has always been there for me. Now that will no longer be the case. If I have to download and install it on the computer before I use it, then what is the point? It will…

> no matter what Windows machine I have been on, I know that I have had it available So MS Paint is to Windows what Vi is to Unix? That is, no matter which editor you prefer, you'll always end up learning Vi, at least its basics. Because when in doubt, it may be the only viable editor that exists on your target system for sure.

To clarify Paint's appeal; in addition to this list https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14845533 , if you want to drag a square selection of something somewhere else, paint is probably still the goto app in 2017. If not, it has been for far too long. It's a failure on the part of other image apps. Paint hits a power/accessibility sweet spot.
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