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Wisconsin company to offer microchip implants to its employees
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Re: Wisconsin company to offer microchip implants to its employees
#62The title is, of course, misleading. They are offering employees a microchip implant. It's not required. Still crazy that anyone would opt-in to do this, but a misleading headline all the same.
If there's no law that disallows employers to ask for this, it will be mandatory in a matter of years.
That's a little extreme...
Re: Wisconsin company to offer microchip implants to its employees
#63How would/could this kind of stuff work with e.g. EMV / contactless payments? Or, OpenPGP over NFC?
I've seen tons of RFID implantable chips which aren't that interesting, I've also seen NFC ones but they just look to be read/write storage...
Re: Wisconsin company to offer microchip implants to its employees
#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
If it is my time to die then I will die. I don't think we should steer away from something because it is not 100% safe. Like I drive my car each day which is by no means 100% safe.
its a matter of trade-offs and choice. to me, a .000001 chance of a complication is not worth it vs 'just carry a card in your wallet'. driving a car has many risks, and if I could opt for a card in my wallet as an alternative I certainly would. I am curious to how old are you roughly? it seems like you are stating you can get a medical complication, take a few weeks sick leave and return to your life, which makes me…
It really depends what you mean by "medical complication". If we are assuming that we are getting the implant at hospital by a qualified physician risks are already at minimum.
Most likely "complications" would be body rejecting the implant or the wound getting infected. I've had foreign objects in my body (not by choice), they were removed because the wound got infected. I was monitoring the wound, once I thought it didn't look/feel normal I went to clinic and got it checked. Over all I wasn't out of commission for even full four weeks.
Re: Wisconsin company to offer microchip implants to its employees
#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
If it is my time to die then I will die. I don't think we should steer away from something because it is not 100% safe. Like I drive my car each day which is by no means 100% safe.
even minor complications can result in life changing injuries and in the USA a massive hospital bill
You can not control everything. Obviously everyone would prefer to be healthy to being sick or crippled, but getting implant like this is hardly the most dangerous thing people do.
Since I'm not American I can't obviously speak for you. For me money wouldn't be an issue since it would be obvious in this case that the company would bare all the medical costs involved caused by the implant.
Re: Wisconsin company to offer microchip implants to its employees
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> how standardized is this stuff? Yeah, this is a good question. Something Visa-level reliable might make sense, conditional on your other questions. But getting the Discover implant that doesn't work most places? Or the Diner's Club implant that's the first big player but fades in popularity? I don't really want to take sides in a format war using my own body.
There's literally only one time I've tried to use a Discover card and not been able to, and it was a local DQ franchise (yet they still took amex?). My wife's daily driver is her Discover It card, and even traveling to small rural towns she's never been in a situation where she had to break out her shelved Visa cards.
Huh... Now I'm confused, I seem to see them fail maybe 20% of the time, anywhere except the biggest cities. Maybe it's regional?
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#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's literally only one time I've tried to use a Discover card and not been able to, and it was a local DQ franchise (yet they still took amex?). My wife's daily driver is her Discover It card, and even traveling to small rural towns she's never been in a situation where she had to break out her shelved Visa cards.
Huh... Now I'm confused, I seem to see them fail maybe 20% of the time, anywhere except the biggest cities. Maybe it's regional?
That's possible, but both here in Idaho where we live and Mass. where we went for Red Hat Summit this year my wife hasn't had issues using her discover card aside from at that one DQ franchise.
I know many years ago on various credit forums the joke was always that Discover has really bad acceptance rates, but generally speaking I'm much more likely to see a business decline to take an AmEx than Discover assuming they take credit cards at all. Discover's transaction fees are extremely similar to Visa and MC, and most merchant accounts handle it without issue so why not take it?
Personally from a cardholder point of view, my wife loves her Discover card because they're the only bank she has a card with that doesn't make her wade through phone menus only to get routed to some outsourced call center 1/2 the time - having the first option presented when you call being "press 0 to talk to somebody" and always getting an American support representative is pretty awesome.
Re: Wisconsin company to offer microchip implants to its employees
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My new startup makes employee id bracelets out of sterling silver with embedded rfid chips encased in sapphire, for tech startups that can't figure out how to spend their VC money.
I'll take that as sarcasm, cheap copper should be fine https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antimicrobial_properties_of_...
Sarcasm or not, it makes me wish my current municipality had some stupid VC money sloshing over the sides of the tub.
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#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
> "Something like Apple Pay" Meaning a smartphone app to authenticate, instead of a lanyard or keycard.
Just more convenience then I guess. I like the idea that I could just go to store, pick up stuff and walk out and my bank account would just magically get charged for the items. Obviously this is still far away from that (possible) future, but it's a step towards it. I would already be willing to pay not to have to use my credit card at the counter, but instead being able to Jedi wave over the payment terminal.
I dislike the idea that a payment system might not include a "something you know" or a "something you are" in its verification.
And also that I'd probably get fired for cloning my boss's RFID.