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Re: How to camouflage yourself from facial recognition technology

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Post by avar » Sat, Jul 03, 2010, 12:22 PM UTC

eru wrote: post #17

kranner wrote: post #11

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"The computer can't tell you the emotional story. It can give you the exact mathematical design, but what's missing is the eyebrows." - Frank Zappa

"Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." -- Pablo Picasso I wonder where all those artists get their knowledge about computers from. Whoever thinks that computer can only give you answers, and only do what they are told to---has never debugged.

Well, have you debugged? I've done so thousands of times, and invariably the cause was that the computer was doing exactly what I told it to do, but not what I thought I was telling it to do.

Re: How to camouflage yourself from facial recognition technology

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Post by evilduck » Sat, Jul 03, 2010, 3:25 PM UTC

tomjen3 wrote: post #19

1amzave wrote: post #7

Or, to avoid detection by cameras entirely, lemon juice: http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/20/the-anosogno... "But I wore the juice!"

Cameras can't see the difference between visible light and infrared, so one thing you could do would be to put a bunch of lnfrared leds on your face - humans can't see it, but to the cameras your head looks like a light bulb.

I always wanted to do this for my license plate.

Re: How to camouflage yourself from facial recognition technology

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Post by delano » Sat, Jul 03, 2010, 3:38 PM UTC

Face paint, seriously? You might fool the software but every person that sees you will remember you forever.

Re: How to camouflage yourself from facial recognition technology

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Post by sesqu » Sat, Jul 03, 2010, 5:12 PM UTC

lunchbox wrote: post #10

Jun8 wrote: post #8

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Interesting, because shaving you eyebrows is easy and is not as conspicuous as painting your face.

Sure, or wearing a headband over the eyebrows. But computers probably detect faces differently, so I don't know if this would fool a computer.

The one system I read about in passing, which was surprisingly accurate, just looked for off-color blots to the bottom, left and right of a supposed face. If you're not blonde, eyebrows probably contribute more to the blot than the pupils.

Re: How to camouflage yourself from facial recognition technology

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Post by Maciek416 » Sat, Jul 03, 2010, 5:24 PM UTC

This technique is somewhat reminiscent of Dazzle Camo:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dazzle_camouflage

What's interesting is that Dazzle camo is typically used to confuse the visual systems of human beings, not computer vision, but some of the principles and tricks seem to be the same.

Re: How to camouflage yourself from facial recognition technology

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Post by baha_man » Sat, Jul 03, 2010, 6:41 PM UTC

Maciek416 wrote: post #25

This technique is somewhat reminiscent of Dazzle Camo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dazzle_camouflage What's interesting is that Dazzle camo is typically used to confuse the visual systems of human beings, not computer vision, but some of the principles and tricks seem to be the same.

From the article:

"Harvey said he got his idea from studying camouflage methods use during World War I and World War II. His project, CV Dazzle, is based on the original dazzle camouflage used by the military to hide ships in the 1940s."

Re: How to camouflage yourself from facial recognition technology

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Post by baha_man » Sat, Jul 03, 2010, 6:47 PM UTC

delano wrote: post #23

Face paint, seriously? You might fool the software but every person that sees you will remember you forever.

"Putting paint on your face isn't always practical," he said. "This is just the way that I wanted to test this. But if you wanted to be covert, you could try wearing different styles of make-up or accessories. You could position a Band-aid on the right spot on your face. The power of this idea is that people can interpret it in their own way."

Re: How to camouflage yourself from facial recognition technology

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Post by astine » Sat, Jul 03, 2010, 7:03 PM UTC

This would explain David Bowie.

http://dailymaily.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/davidbowie001....

http://cdn.venturebeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/face-r...

Re: How to camouflage yourself from facial recognition technology

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Post by delano » Sat, Jul 03, 2010, 7:33 PM UTC

baha_man wrote: post #27

delano wrote: post #23

Face paint, seriously? You might fool the software but every person that sees you will remember you forever.

"Putting paint on your face isn't always practical," he said. "This is just the way that I wanted to test this. But if you wanted to be covert, you could try wearing different styles of make-up or accessories. You could position a Band-aid on the right spot on your face. The power of this idea is that people can interpret it in their own way."

He almost had me with the band-aid, but you could only do that once, maybe twice, per social circle before it became a gimmick.

Re: How to camouflage yourself from facial recognition technology

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Post by eagleal » Sat, Jul 03, 2010, 11:53 PM UTC

anamax wrote: post #13

eagleal wrote: post #12

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When you register at school, you're required to use your real name. It will always come up, one way or another.

So? BTW - In the US, there's no law mandating a unique "real name".

Replying late. In Italy, or Albania, your name is registered after your gov documents. You can use a "mouth" different name with your friends, but since the register of the class is open and stays always on the room, everyone could read it.