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Cafeteria workers at Facebook struggle to make ends meet

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Re: Cafeteria workers at Facebook struggle to make ends meet

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They make decent money -- good money even. This is really an article about the high housing costs in the Bay Area. I don't see any other real message here. All of the people who oppose residential development near work sites are to blame. Period.

Apparently good money does not translate into a liveable wage.

"Stop grandstanding and take care of your own house first" is more of the message of this article, I'd say.

Re: Cafeteria workers at Facebook struggle to make ends meet

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Almost 80k/year in salary leaves a family stuck in a garage over there? That's absurd

Yep. A lot of junior people at the large companies roomshare, because they can't afford living by themselves. Many of the slightly more tenured people can finally get a place if they are willing to have a 90-120 minute commute. (Each direction)

The bay area is a giant clusterfuck when it comes to housing.

Re: Cafeteria workers at Facebook struggle to make ends meet

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One of the reasons for disallowing employees from taking home food is that they will lose their motivation to sell food if they get to keep the unsold food after business hours. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the deli employees hide expensive food from customers and take it home after work because it's "unsold". My cousin worked at Walmart during Black Friday sales and he has told me that his coworkers hide popul…

That's the dumbest goddamn thing I've ever heard, least of all because a TV on sale on Black Friday is pretty far from a nice sandwich. This sort of selfish reasoning--"but but but what about the poors that might somehow abuse the system"--is cancerous, and you sir or madam are a shitty person for suggesting it.

Have you ever worked in food services or retail? If not, you don't know what you're talking about, because this kind of thing happens all the time because people abuse the system.

The parent commenter is not even the one making up the reason. She/he is simply explaining the reason why such a policy commonly exists.

FWIW, most places also allow the workers to eat the food before/during/after they work there.

Re: Cafeteria workers at Facebook struggle to make ends meet

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One of the reasons for disallowing employees from taking home food is that they will lose their motivation to sell food if they get to keep the unsold food after business hours. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the deli employees hide expensive food from customers and take it home after work because it's "unsold". My cousin worked at Walmart during Black Friday sales and he has told me that his coworkers hide popul…

That's the dumbest goddamn thing I've ever heard, least of all because a TV on sale on Black Friday is pretty far from a nice sandwich. This sort of selfish reasoning--"but but but what about the poors that might somehow abuse the system"--is cancerous, and you sir or madam are a shitty person for suggesting it.

what made you think that I suggested this ? I worked at a major retail chain that has a deli while in college and this was the reason my manager told me. i'm just passing that info here.

Re: Cafeteria workers at Facebook struggle to make ends meet

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> A spokeswoman for Facebook said none of the company’s contingent or contract workers have access to facilities such as clinics, gyms, or bring-your-child-to-work days One thing I liked about AirBnB was their entire staff including cafeteria workers and security guards were full-time employees who ate the same food, had access to the same facilities and events, and went through the first week 'bootcamp' alongside de…

See also senior and older FB engineers being discouraged from participating in perks and events intended for younger and junior employees because FB can multitask at sucking.

> See also senior and older FB engineers being discouraged from participating in perks and events intended for younger and junior employees because FB can multitask at sucking.

Can you elaborate? I don't recall ever seeing anything of the sort while I worked there.

Re: Cafeteria workers at Facebook struggle to make ends meet

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This is a problem with zoning in the area. Paying these workers more money would enable them to move out of a garage, but the amount of housing would stay the same, causing prices to rise until someone else is forced into a garage. Unfortunately, local governments in the south Bay area are controlled by people who want to maximize the price of their houses, injury to the poor and middle class be damned.

Yea, but they use reusable shopping bags and drive a Tesla. So obvs. they care about people and the environment.

Re: Cafeteria workers at Facebook struggle to make ends meet

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That's a great defense of your misstatement about what it takes to become an electrician. Of course regulation often goes wrong. I'm pretty sure that isn't a reason to do away with it altogether, it is merely a reason to find ways to do it better.

I didn't make a misstatement. Both cases have the same problem. The government has stepped in and made it more difficult for you to enter the market. In one case, you have to pay an electrician to take a class because the government won't let you learn for free. In the other case the government has made it even worse because you now have to perform labor at sub-market wages for 4 years before you're allowed to do wor…

There's a difference between the requirements for licensing being excessive and "massive debt".

Re: Cafeteria workers at Facebook struggle to make ends meet

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See also senior and older FB engineers being discouraged from participating in perks and events intended for younger and junior employees because FB can multitask at sucking.

> See also senior and older FB engineers being discouraged from participating in perks and events intended for younger and junior employees because FB can multitask at sucking. Can you elaborate? I don't recall ever seeing anything of the sort while I worked there.

There are all sorts of wonderful shop classes and related perks at FB. Older and senior talent in my experience is discouraged from attending these classes. Maybe they weren't always that way or maybe someone smacked them with a clue bat over that behavior, don't know...

Re: Cafeteria workers at Facebook struggle to make ends meet

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Re-read the comment. There's a lot of truth to it: raise their wages, and in a heartbeat, those workers will see their rents rise.

>There's a lot of truth to it: raise their wages, and in a heartbeat, those workers will see their rents rise. This offers a brilliant solution, just in the other direction. Let's lower the wages of programmers in the area. As their wages decrease the price of real estate will go down!

Why not get rid of political NIMBYism? Aritficially reducing housing supply to increase demand is morally wrong.

Re: Cafeteria workers at Facebook struggle to make ends meet

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> Wow. Just wow. For some people, marriage is more than a financial arrangement. Marriage in the legal sense and marriage in the religious/personal/emotional commitment sense are not the same thing. I don't think you're necessarily _always_ wrong, but I also don't see why you think it's so universal that people should load a specific legal status with so much emotional weight and be unable to separate it from the act…

It sounds like you've never been married. It's not a matter of getting the government to approve, it's a matter of getting other people to recognize it. If you have a common-law marriage but it's not documented then if your spouse falls ill and taken to hospital you might be denied visitation rights, for example. I suggest you read some court filings/legal articles on the gay marriage cases from a few years ago to ge…

It sounds like you haven't read the thread you're commenting on. Those issues (visitation rights etc) are explicitly stated in the GP comment, and the comment was speculating that it may be worth the trade-off. The comment _I_ was responding to was talking entirely about legal marriage _meaning_ more to its participants.

I suggest you read the threads you're participating in before smugly assuming that someone else is the one who doesn't know what they're talking about.

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