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Wisconsin company to offer microchip implants to its employees

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Re: Wisconsin company to offer microchip implants to its employees

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If you get sepsis or rare complications it can be fatal we had a intern who broke his leg at a company cricket match and he was dead before morning.

If it is my time to die then I will die. I don't think we should steer away from something because it is not 100% safe. Like I drive my car each day which is by no means 100% safe.

even minor complications can result in life changing injuries and in the USA a massive hospital bill

Re: Wisconsin company to offer microchip implants to its employees

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The title is, of course, misleading. They are offering employees a microchip implant. It's not required. Still crazy that anyone would opt-in to do this, but a misleading headline all the same.

I dunno, I'm surprised you thought it was mandatory. Pretty confident in the state of Wisconsin you cannot force someone who does not have life threatening ailments surgery.

Obviously you cannot physically force them, but that doesn't mean it can't be a condition for employment. No being familiar with Wisconsin law, I wouldn't know if that's allowed.

Re: Wisconsin company to offer microchip implants to its employees

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Um, almost the same applies to hands and arms.

I don't know about you, but my body's sense of proprioception[1] doesn't extend to lanyards or other things attached to my clothing. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proprioception

Yeah, but getting your arm ripped off by some machinery is also rarely deliberate.

Re: Wisconsin company to offer microchip implants to its employees

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I don't know about you, but my body's sense of proprioception[1] doesn't extend to lanyards or other things attached to my clothing. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proprioception

Yeah, but getting your arm ripped off by some machinery is also rarely deliberate.

But you're likely to notice if your arm is near a piece of machinery -- which was my point. Lanyards and ties? Not so much (in fact, that's one reason why neck-wear such as ties are banned from many such sites -- because of the risk).

Re: Wisconsin company to offer microchip implants to its employees

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Meh. I got an rfid implant in 2010 ish, but took it out after a few years because there were so few benefits. If there was a universal standard maybe, or if the range was > 10 cm, or if it had more than a few bytes of memory. I think most people who got a chip implant over the last 10 years came to the same conclusion. The only applications that show up in the press every now and then are like this - for payments. Bu…

Got rid of it? Why not just leave it in? Also, I think you can get chips with kilobytes of memory easily. Sure, not enough to store too much data on there, but fairly reasonable for a bunch of stuff.

Well it was still a foreign thing floating around in my hand. Back then I still trained bjj/mma and I was always slightly nervous it would break or pinch a muscle or something. Since it was of no use anyway, I figured it'd be better to take it out.

Re: memory, what would be a useful use case for having a few kb of data under your skin? It's not enough to store e.g. crucial documents, plus you need a custom reader.

When I got it, I thought 'uses will pop up when I have one'. Turns out they didn't, and it wasn't for lack of trying. Most people have come to the same conclusion.

(Amal Graafstra, one of the earliest people who did it and blogged about it, made a career out of it - but that's only realistic for the first person to do it)

Re: Wisconsin company to offer microchip implants to its employees

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If you get sepsis or rare complications it can be fatal we had a intern who broke his leg at a company cricket match and he was dead before morning.

If it is my time to die then I will die. I don't think we should steer away from something because it is not 100% safe. Like I drive my car each day which is by no means 100% safe.

its a matter of trade-offs and choice. to me, a .000001 chance of a complication is not worth it vs 'just carry a card in your wallet'.

driving a car has many risks, and if I could opt for a card in my wallet as an alternative I certainly would.

I am curious to how old are you roughly? it seems like you are stating you can get a medical complication, take a few weeks sick leave and return to your life, which makes me think you are <25

Re: Wisconsin company to offer microchip implants to its employees

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Funny they think GPS tracking is the problem with this.

The problem is that it's a way to check your identity even if you'd prefer not to voluntarily provide it. I can scan you as you pass our flower pots without your knowledge and, even if, at first, I can't identify you, with time I will.

And by then you won't be able to easily remove the implant.

Re: Wisconsin company to offer microchip implants to its employees

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The justifications for this are so utterly marginal. I'm sure some could benefit but it's vanishingly few people who will.

A ring (as others suggest) gets you most of the benefits - and maybe rings have the downside of being forgotten, but I've left my work passcard a few times over the years and it's not the end of the world... Not so bad I'd prefer a minor surgical procedure! And the supposed advantage of not getting it caught in things? I might change my mind when I personally know five people who've lost limbs, but right now I know zero people who lost limbs...

Re: Wisconsin company to offer microchip implants to its employees

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I don't know about you, but my body's sense of proprioception[1] doesn't extend to lanyards or other things attached to my clothing. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proprioception

Yeah, but getting your arm ripped off by some machinery is also rarely deliberate.

I think the fact that you're arguing this shows that you've never worked around heavy machinery.
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