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Thanks to Venmo, We Now All Know How Cheap Our Friends Are

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Would you not consider PayPal one of these things? Definitely Square Cash. What's an example of local banking infrastructure that helps alleviate the problem of needing to pay people money with ease? I'm not even sure how it works on my Huntington mobile app. I know I could do it fairly painlessly with Simple bank. Except it's really only easy if they're a Simple user I think. Otherwise I'll need to get their physica…

In Canada, we have a debit card network called Interac and can use it to send an "e-Transfer" to anyone else with a Canadian bank account using nothing more than their email address or phone number + a shared secret to claim the payment. Some number of free e-Transfers per month is typically included with bank accounts. Interac solved the P2P payments problem for every social group that I'm in there.

Interac e-Transfers took 10+ min and cost me $1.50 every time I've used them. They're absolute garbage compared to Venmo.

I actually use Venmo in Canada with friends that have US bank accounts because it's still more convenient even having to calculate the exchange rate.

Re: Thanks to Venmo, We Now All Know How Cheap Our Friends Are

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You were either too proud to tell your friends the truth or had bad friends.

I don't follow your logic at all. The person in this article is saying that people are being cheap by not just splitting the bill evenly. I'm pointing out that if everyone did that it would put people with less money at a huge disadvantage. The fact is my friends did not do this, and now that things like venmo exist it's even easier to manage this.

Down to the cent and quite often those that are picky are just cheap not poor.

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Young millennial male, every single person I know uses Venmo. IMO this article largely misses the point of the app. It's replaced cash/checks is all, it's not some huge social upheaval in the way we use money that needs to be analyzed. In my experience it's rarely used for splitting bills for dinner or picking up bar tabs (I can't remember the last time I went somewhere that wasn't able to split the bill on their end…

"every single person I know uses Venmo" How does that happen. I don't know a single person who uses Venmo. Not one. I know a lot of people and I work in Tech.

I've heard there's a West Coast/East Coast divide when it comes to Venmo with it being much more popular on the east coast.

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Young millennial male, every single person I know uses Venmo. IMO this article largely misses the point of the app. It's replaced cash/checks is all, it's not some huge social upheaval in the way we use money that needs to be analyzed. In my experience it's rarely used for splitting bills for dinner or picking up bar tabs (I can't remember the last time I went somewhere that wasn't able to split the bill on their end…

"every single person I know uses Venmo" How does that happen. I don't know a single person who uses Venmo. Not one. I know a lot of people and I work in Tech.

You old? (=

I am.

My neighbor's kid introduced me to it. Now I can't live without it. Being able to pay my maid or gardener when I'm not home... priceless. I never carry cash or a wallet any more. Slip an ID card in my phone case... good to go.

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I refuse to link my financial activity and things involving my physical address to Facebook, which Venmo seems to require. This is insanity to me. And I am a millennial as well.

I use Venmo without a Facebook account. Works fine.

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"every single person I know uses Venmo" How does that happen. I don't know a single person who uses Venmo. Not one. I know a lot of people and I work in Tech.

The only time I hear about it is when people on HN say everyone uses it.

The girls on tinder jokingly ask for it in their profiles.

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>“It’s making people less generous and chivalrous,” Ms. Pennoyer said. “It used to be you’d go to a restaurant, and you’d put down your credit cards and split it 50-50, even if one person had steak and one had chicken. But now people pay exactly to the cent.” How is this portrayed as a bad thing in the article? This solution to this problem is the ONLY reason I use Venmo. Perhaps the author was always the one orderin…

> How is this portrayed as a bad thing in the article? It takes some of the humanity out of the time spent together. Being generous with each other is part of how friendships and other relations are formed. Among friends, boiling it down to a precise transaction is petty. If a friend is abusing this approach, that says something about both him and your friendship.

I have had regular dinner with friends who liked to eat and drink a lot. Much more than I do. So I always ended up paying $50 while I myself consumed for maybe $20. Not once did any of the people who ate a lot notice that there were several people on the table who consumed only a fraction of what they consumed. Sharing is fine but I think it needs to be approximately even. You can't have people constantly taking advantage of this system and then accusing others of being cheap.

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Young millennial male, every single person I know uses Venmo. IMO this article largely misses the point of the app. It's replaced cash/checks is all, it's not some huge social upheaval in the way we use money that needs to be analyzed. In my experience it's rarely used for splitting bills for dinner or picking up bar tabs (I can't remember the last time I went somewhere that wasn't able to split the bill on their end…

"every single person I know uses Venmo" How does that happen. I don't know a single person who uses Venmo. Not one. I know a lot of people and I work in Tech.

Just another data point, everyone in my group of friends and even friends of friends uses Venmo. We're in our early 30s, many in tech and live in California.

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This is one of the worst article I read in a long time - also I couldn't disagree with it more. I like eating salads and my friends like eating stakes - Venmo and Square Cash makes it so easy for us to spend time together and split money in a sensible way (how splitting it in a half would be sensible in this case?). Saying that this make friendship transactional is just bullshit - it makes them honest. And people thi…

Totally agree. From my experience the people who get offended are the ones that eat and drink the most.

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Honestly it sounds extremely freaky.. I didn't know that people in the valley, that probably earn some multiple of my income, were so scaringly attached to fractions of dimes when going out with friends that they desperately needed an app for this huge first world problem..

in many places I have worked this petty attitude would get you marked as not a culture fit
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