I wonder if this means ending a meal with a dessert it's considered a "no no".
Desserts and sodas should always be considered a big nono, if you're concerned about your health.
Sugar-sweetened drinks with protein rich meal affect metabolism
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#112So O-Juices and Eggs are a sin, to the holy church of body now? Well sorry, if i sin on like a old heathen, while you drive up your blood pressure in your schisms, popes and anti-popes. Seriously, fruit was a base part of our food source - since we walked out of the djungle. And we have cravings for it, wherever we go- to get some honey, some overripe mango. If somebody wants to declare that unhealthy, he is free to…
There is a difference between whole fruits and juices. Juices basically don't have any fiber in them anymore and the sugar is much more concentrated. Nobody will take eating fruit or even drinking smoothies away from you. (well maybe the Keto folks will)
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#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
I know what you mean, and my answer probably wont be very satisfying to you: Use common sense, eat what your grandma tells you (if you have a good grandma), ignore all the crap on the internet which is 90% confusing rubbish (with the exception of some scientific studies which can be insightful but not necessarily anything to base a diet on). Try to cook your own food at least half the time and have a balanced intake…
My grandpa ate meat and dairy every day and died after his forth stroke at 70. He had his first stroke at 50, but never even considered changing his diet. My grandma is obese on a similar diet and probably won't make it much longer. My mom ate the a same since an early age and had very high cholesterol and the doctors warned her that she is on a similar course as my grandpa if she didn't change her diet. I've since c…
> Plenty of peer-reviewed studies. There is no denying that dietary cholesterol is a killer and cutting out meat and dairy is probably the healthiest option for the majority of the population.
Yeah, except that the pendulum is swinging the other way now. http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/panel-suggests-stop-warni...
"There’s a growing consensus among nutrition scientists that cholesterol in food has little effect on the amount of cholesterol in the bloodstream. And that’s the cholesterol that matters."
which is exactly the phenomenon GGP commenter zython was describing.
edit: "dietary cholesterol != blood cholesterol" was even in the popular culture ca. 1995, see "Homer the Great" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OZkCXbbEJw
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#114Does someone know of any serious "weight loss" books that are _rigorously evidence based_, without layman explanations, bad/outdated research, and bovine manure like confusing correlation with causation or relying on small, unrandomized population studies to confirm the author's preconceived notions for how things should be? I mean real, hard ass summary of today's best, most rigorous studies + some recommendations.
Eat less calories then you burn == weight loss
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#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes. Fructose loads your liver. Sucrose breaks down into glucose (which can be metabolized by many cells) and fructose (which is only metabolized by the liver). They're both bad when over consumed. This laid out pretty well in The Obesity Code by Jason Fung (a real doctor).
As I understand it, it's worse still. While glucose can be directly converted to energy, fructose must first be turned into fat, before it can be converted to glucose or ketones. This fat will be stored in the liver. The more fat you have in your intestines the more insuline resistance you'll have. Which in the end will screw with the entire body in various ways.
Fructose is mostly turned into glucose and metabolized that way. No need to turn it first to fat.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fructolysis
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#117> The next time you tuck into a protein rich dinner, it may be a good idea to hold off on the sugary drinks. For 300,000 of human existence except the past few decades, humans drank no sugar-sweetened drinks. It is always a good idea to hold off on sugary drinks.
For 300,000 of human existence except the past couple of centuries, humans did not use vaccines. It is always a good idea to hold off on vaccines. Not saying drinking sugary drinks is good, but your justification is bad
For 300,000 year children were'nt getting type 2 diabetes or fatty liver disease.
For 4,500 year humans have been engaging in gavage or the forced feeding of animals to fatten them up, for example the popular French dish Foie Gras - french for fat liver - is liver of duck or goose force feed corn.
If for the first time in history you concentrate the sugar found in corn and put it in beverages and regularly feed them to kids and the kids beging developing the same fatty liver as the Foie Gras...is it then ok to question the sugar?
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#118Note that (at least the summary indicates) this experiment refutes "calories in calories out" theory - food composition affects thermogenesis. (I am not talking about the tautological and useless thermodynamic sense in which it definitely is true; I am talking about the "measure your intake and exercise" crowd)
I'd say it adds a logic circuit to the input, factoring in absorption.
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#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
He is correct though. OP used an appeal to nature fallacy. The conclusion is correct, the argument is stupid.
In this case an appeal to nature is not fallacious, although it lacked the appropriate justification.
No, it's still a fallacy.
By providing "appropriate justification," it'd no longer be a fallacy.
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#120> The next time you tuck into a protein rich dinner, it may be a good idea to hold off on the sugary drinks. For 300,000 of human existence except the past few decades, humans drank no sugar-sweetened drinks. It is always a good idea to hold off on sugary drinks.
Amen. People are very confused. Just because they think something is okay for then doesn't make it so.
In a short time we will pull our heads out of fats asses and realize that sugar is the nicotine of our era. It's not healthy. It has major health reprecussions. Etc.
Unfortunately, fat, literally, makes you stupid. So embracing the obvious might as chose as it should be.